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    The real joke is that the Trump campaign is tripping over itself now to disavow this message. Meanwhile it’s come to light that this “comedian” was going to drop a c-bomb in his material in reference to Kamala, but the Trump campaign told him to remove it, and he complied.

    Meaning they vetted the material and were a-fuckin’-ok with garbage island, only to later lie more and try to backpedal.

    They’re not even good at lying, kids.

    Edit: spelling

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      I’m still baffled by the logic of having a roaster/crowd work guy doing a set at a convention. Like… he was gonna insult people and start shit. It’s literally his job.

      He’s not my cup of tea, but he’s been around and successful for a while now. He’s not an unknown entity who they could claim acted unpredictable.

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        Eminem spoke at a Harris rally. But he’s an adult who cares about people and expects as much from his government.

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          I didn’t watch because it’s a republican political rally but he usually talks shit about other white people in the form of self deprecating humor in the shorts that get passed through my algorithm, so … maybe? It doesn’t help matters much though if he did, and it wouldn’t be on the same level as calling the whole island trash.

          Usually racial comedy can be fun when it takes advantage of knowledge of the in crowd. Like you couldn’t really know to make fun of something unless you yourself were a fan of it. Like there are fun ways to joke around about cultures you love. He wasn’t doing that.

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        Some people find that word to be too misogynistic to use as an epithet. I’m not quite sure where I stand on that myself, but I tend to avoid it overall.

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          In the context of the US, it most certainly is. Other places, maybe not so much.

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          I’m not British so I cannot use it in the proper manner. Literally the only demographic that can get away with it being an 8/10 on the Carlin index of offense terminology. If you aren’t British it’s pretty much a 10.

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      Let me guess… the setup was going to be about the pronunciation of her name, and then he would pronounce it “Cuntmala.”

      These guys are Hi-Larious…

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      Last I saw they just claim it’s just comedy and the left wing has no sense of humor

      They’d absolutely hate shows like Brooklyn 99 because there aren’t really any racist jokes, and it’s too “woke” for them

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    I used to know someone who is half Puerto Rican, her dad is a marine, her mom is full PR. And they are ALL hardcore right wingers.

    Even they wouldn’t switch votes after this.

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      No it is not. Guaranteed Trump Puerto Rican voters agree. They just think it’s the other Puerto Ricians that are making it that way.

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            1.7% nationally isn’t much when spread out. I’m sure there are districts out there which are predominantly Puerto Rican, I just don’t think they’re a significantly large group.

            Which is why I fully support making them a state and giving them due representation.

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              In a close election, any decent percentage matters and they are not spread out evenly at all. For instance, there are 500,000 in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania was won by only 42k in 2016

              Plus a million in Florida - that can make the florida senate race a little more competitive. New York downballot races are a big part of why dems lost the house in 2022, and there’s also around a million in New York

              They should certainly have representation, yes, but that’s not to say the Puerto Ricans in swing states / competitive downballot won’t matter either

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          You know there’s a significant Puerto Rican population in New York and Florida, right?

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            An estimated 5.8 million Hispanics of Puerto Rican origin lived in the United States in 2021

            337 million in the US.

            I wouldn’t call 1.7% spread across 50 states significant.

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              1.7% is more than enough to flip some swing states. Most swing states.

              And two in particular have more than an average number of Puerto Ricans.

              So yeah, it matters.

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    How many jokes about Christians or conservatives did he do? Zero?! Why’s that? Answer those questions.

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      This isn’t even good racism. This is like, 2000s-era ironic racism. Which was about as funny as Holocaust jokes, and aged about as well as Anne Frank.

      Where’s the hateful, KKK, lynchmob racism? Don’t just casually half ass it. Show your real murican colors. Y’all are living like American History X and you give us Wayne Brady on Chapelles Show.

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    Racists can not help themselves. If there’s a MAGAt in your life, I can pretty much guarantee they’ll say some hateful shit at some point…

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    I am not fan of Tony but I really love Shane Gillis. I loved the Trump and Biden(Shane and Adam) episode. It was the best comedy I’ve seen in quite a while.

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        I think the joke was “I hate minorities, this is my unironic view! Race war now, if it aint white it’s not right, white power!” which, is about as funny as a child with terminal illness, which is to say… Not very funny at all, and is in fact quite a serious matter that should be taken as such.

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        Isn’t even an original joke, the meme of trash island in the Atlantic is old as hell, Google “England” for more information.

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        I would like to know that. I would also like to know what the joke the same fuck told at the same event about black people carving Jack-o-Lanterns out of watermelons was.

        I hope @dcat@lemmy.world can enlighten us as to what both jokes are.

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          According to the modlog, his comment was about how “all the r-slur takes in this thread are why many people hate lemmy, and you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?”

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        According to the modlog, they posted

        “all the [r-slur] takes in this post is the reason many have come to hate lemmy. you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?”

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          Yeah, that’s great. What’s the point of the moderator removing a comment if somebody like you is going to come along and repost it?

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            What’s the point of having a modlog that allows anyone to publicly see the comment that was removed?

            The purpose was to show that they weren’t making some off-colored joke, as some suggested, but rather making a hateful statement in general. It was removed for violating rule 5. I censored out the slur, so if the mods want to remove my comment, they will. Feel free to ask them to do so.

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      I think it’s up to the race he’s going after to decide if this is offensive or not. And we Latinos agree it’s offensive. Mainly because it’s not funny it’s just thinly veiled jokes used to push his real beliefs. And his “jokes” are lame and lazy. We have a good sense of humor I’m sure that’s been established throughout the years, if you make good jokes about us we’ll laugh and even respect you, but this guy is a known right winger and he’s making these “jokes” that are clearly not really jokes.

      Also he said later people took it out of context but I think context makes it worse, the context is that he said this stuff during an official event for an official candidate

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        If you saw the whole thing, he threw everyone under the bus. That’s his dark humor - He’s a roasting comedian after all

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      Does it has more jokes that aren’t “here’s list of people I don’t like”?

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    “It was just a joke!”

    Oh, I don’t get it. Can you explain to me what the joke is? Like, can you put into words why you find that funny?

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      I don’t understand the joke because everybody knows the trash island (not an island btw, you cannot walk on it) is in the Pacific Ocean, and Puerto Rico is on the Atlantic Ocean, so it’s inaccurate. I mean… geography is important, otherwise, you could do the joke with any island in the world and as a French, I would of course pick Great Britain.

      (ok, that would be funny, then)

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      I think it’d be subverting expectations. From the start you might think it’s about the Pacific trash island that has collected there, but then it turns the other way and calls Puerto Rico a trash island. A decently funny joke imo, even if rude. I’ve seen the same joke being done about the UK and it did get a proper chuckle out of me.

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        The main difference is that the UK used to be powerful and did a lot of bad things to a lot of countries around the world. Puerto Rico on the other hand has always been weak so it feels weird for someone in a much more powerful area of the world to pick on them.

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          Good comedy can punch up, but very rarely works when punching down. Punching down is generally just bullying in disguise.

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              Jeselnik is a class act. What’s interesting to me is that the guy in the op, essentially has the same Roast style as Jeselnik. But the way they execute it is key.

              I saw some of the ops bits from a comedy central roast, and they were really funny… But when you put him in the context of being at a trump rally wave saying stuff like this it’s like “ohhh, you’re not making subvertive jokes, you’re just a bigot hiding behind ‘comedy’”

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          It can be meaner but for a stand-up I think it could be fine, if the context is comedy and it didn’t have genuine hatred behind it. In this case it’s clear that it was used as a tool of hatred and not just for making a joke.

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          I don’t think how places used to be plays any part in how funny insulting them is. Despite being as powerful as the UK when it was last relevant and worse, I think people would still be offended if he said Japan instead. “Always OK to hate colonizers” as someone put it my butt, the internet just really wants to make fun of France and not feel bad about it.

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              So you would say it’s fair if he had said “It’s called Japan” instead? They glorify their recent past as well.

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                If by recent past you mean the genocides in their most recent wars with their neighbors then yes, I would say that would qualify them to be made fun of in that way. If you just mean some industrial successes in the 1980s, not so much.