I’ve already mailed in my ballot, and I volunteered to be a poll worker (though they haven’t gotten in touch). With a week (maybe two) to go before we get the result, I feel caught in a limbo. It feels more important to me to be copying my important documents and organizing go-bags to be ready for a crisis than it does to do anything at work. I also recognize that that is probably a reaction to stress and anxiety and isn’t helping me. That said, I’m part of many groups that the right-wing hates and is openly threatening, so feeling unsafe doesn’t feel unreasonable either.
How are you all holding up out there? And tips for me to deal with this better?
Weed, booze and benzos
Voted early.
Disconnected completely from any news source.
Planning my Amerexit. I don’t want to leave, we have a decent country, but if Trump wins this place is going to go to hell fast.
And it seems like Canada isn’t far behind us either… Though maybe there will be a backlash up there once they see what Trump is doing down here.
I doubt it, Trudeau really has pissed off most Canadians and their Conservative Party is also corrupt as hell. It’ll be better than here for a bit but Canadians in general feel politically stuck and that might not end well. Similar issue in Germany.
Where are you planning to go?
Not the person you asked, but I’ll give my answer: I don’t know where I’d go, but I’ve been learning French for the last few years, in part, to increase my options.
(The other reason I picked French is that I’ve also been considering getting a sailboat and becoming nomadic, and France owns a whole bunch of tropical islands.)
Depends how quickly things devolve. If things get bad too quickly, I may move to China for a bit. Yes, really. I know that’s a bit ironic. But I have family there, so getting residency is trivial for me. Day to day life is chill there, just don’t piss off the party. In America, I’d be considered a political enemy if the Republicans go full fascist, so ironically it would be safer for me.
I’d hate to lose American working opportunities, salaries, my house, my friends, and my family. But if things devolve really quick I don’t want to be here and that’s my fastest way out.
If there’s a fair bit of time to move, Japan, Spain, Netherlands, even Germany would all be decent picks for me.
My long term goal is honestly Japan - competent society, free and open, outstanding food, low pollution, safe for kids to be independent with good educational opportunities, few drug addicts, and high social respect.
We survived one term, this one will be worse, but if we stop being idiots and let them distract us with 1000 tiny controversies then we can solve anything.
He had nearly unlimited power last time and we did OK, though McCain helped and that corporate tax cut was brutal.
I think America has become politically lazy, sometimes you have to take a stand for your principles, and we’ve gotten used to expecting the idiots on TV to do that for us.
If he ‘wins’ and we put 10m people on Pennsylvania Avenue, I think we can make it clear that he serves us, not the other way around.
But we won’t do that, we’ll expect everyone else to instead…
Last time there were a lot more guardrails, though. It also wasn’t entirely clear if he was going to be a fascist either.
Honestly a reasonable person in 2016 could consider Trump to even be a moderate Republican (yes, really). Corrupt and lazy, sure, but I was expecting the American equivalent of someone like Rob Ford, not some insane idiot who is begging people in his party to literally rig the vote in his favor.
Come to California. We’ll be the center of any resistance.
Thank you for fighting, unfortunately there are millions of morons who think Trump is amazing and I don’t feel having my family get caught up in dying for this bullshit.
Head down just trying to do my hobbies, my job and some fun stuff like a virtual Bob Ross painting session tonight.
There’s really nothing I can do besides voting and having others vote.
Writing my reps just gets me form responses.
The only country I can flee to is Ukraine since I was born there and uh…
Ignoring it.
Bought a farm a few years back in northern Europe, it’s beautiful, wife and kid moved, I’m communiting.
If shit hits the fan I’ll be there, but some part of me has faith in my country, and even if the trash take over, I think we’ll somehow survive.
Wife is thrilled to be out, kid is doing great. It’s basically America but better, except without Amazon.
Besides, I survived the south, and I was a kid back then. I’ve seen their bigotry naked when they were strong and I was weak, i have no fear for them anymore. And if civil war does break out? I am an extraordinary engineer, particularly when it comes to military drones. Parry that with your crappy ar15 you filthy casual.
It helps knowing you literally can make a difference if you absolutely have to, so I recommend picking up a useful skill if you didn’t during covid.
I left Canada when the politics started to mirror that of America’s. Went to Europe, and while there are a lot of problems here as well (an increasing amount to boot), I’m happier overall.
Around 2008, basically all the Texans who screwed up US politics saw their gravy train ending and ran north to exploit Alberta’s new oil.
I’m sorry, but it’s like apologizing for locusts.
Compartmentalization. I only focus on what I can control. I read local news and mostly ignore national stuff because it is beyond my ability to affect change.
There’s no stress. There is zero that I can do about any of it other than vote. And where I’m at my vote really doesn’t mean anything. I’m still going to vote, but my state isn’t going to even come close to turning red.
If he wins I need to make an ernest attempt to find a quiet far away place to get the fuck out.
We’re honestly just kind of stuck in the track we’re in. With the current state of affairs we need billionaires who are okay with being taxed to send sufficient amounts of money into campaigns and fight off corporate entities on our behalf to no benefit of their own. Back in the Nixon and Reagan days we had a chance to have voices heard and run protests and stamp out some of the corruption but we’re well past that now.
We need to put laws in place to stop the propaganda engines into wrest power from the oligarchs. But even the left doesn’t truly want all that to happen.
I’m going to be in Hawaii for Election day. I already voted. Nothing more I can do personally. Gotta focus on the controllables in life. Going to try n enjoy paradise and tune it out as much as I can.
… That said, I’m part of many groups that the right-wing hates and is openly threatening, so feeling unsafe doesn’t feel unreasonable either.
i’m at the intersection of several groups that right wingers hate and all of them are fodder for this election when it comes to immigration; lgbt rights; the social safety net; and neuro divergence visibility. the goal is to make you feel unsafe and, to be clear, you should ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings in this country if you’re any kind of minority.
How are you all holding up out there? And tips for me to deal with this better?
i’m doing okay because i’ve seen this playbook used multiple times since the 1980’s starting with biden and now with trump. minorities have always been excellent political fodder used to invigorate voting bases for as long as elections have existed and; up until recently; it had only been used for scapegoating. starting in the 2012 election, it was used for liberal virtue signaling and now the harris campaigned has REALLY perfected it as a cudgel to attack both the left and the right. they use it against the right to show how regressive the republicans are and they use it against the left to paint them as selfish/stupid for throwing minorities under the bus.
i was scared too the first time i heard biden’s anti-gay tirade in 1988 and then when clinton did anti-gay marriage in 1996 it started to dawn on me that it was a political ploy. they trot us out like show horses when they think it’ll help their cause. so i think that the best tip i can give you is to read up on the history of the last 40 or so years worth of elections to help you get a broader perspective of our political system so that you can manage that fear you’re carrying around inside you and also to see how the only thing that’s different about it this time around is the STAGGERING amounts of difficult to trace campaign donations (thanks citizens united) and all the fuckery it’s enabled.
STOP
I have automated scripts to send that to any political text
Yo, save the complaint
For a party conversation
The world is loaded
It’s lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop
Daydreaming about getting out of here and moving to like laos and farming or some shit
You don’t want that.
You are correct, I probably would not enjoy it as much as I tell myself I will. Especially with how climate change is going to affect that country and with the risk of buried explosives killing me, but its a nice thought. Laos is a very beautiful country that I wouldn’t mind spending a long time in and the history is rich. The work that would be required of me wouldn’t be easy but it could be freeing. I imagine I romanticize the “simple” life as often as I do because it is essentially out of my reach.
You gotta get to the point where you worry about the things you can control, and let go of the things that you can’t.
This is the way.
This is actually a big message in the dharma of the Buddha.
I used to be much more into meditation and reading Buddhist literature. I reflect on that time in my life as being happier and more peaceful (I was also exercising a lot more then too). I’ve started going to a yoga class a few times a month, but I wish I had an easier time getting back into the rest of it.
Every moment can be done in meditation. Making time would be great but if it doesn’t happen you can still give presence into whatever moment you find yourself in.
But the fact that it’s not easy is a good thing. The hard thing to do is usually the right thing to do. Dealing with the negative hardship is a positive experience in the end, and avoiding the negative hardship is worse than the hardship itself.
And classical Stoicism. (Not the “don’t talk much” kind, but the roman philosopher kind.)
Not Jesus? That ain’t my lord and savior! Round this one up bois
Letting go of things you can’t control like death also was a big tenet of the Jedi order, which I guess isn’t that surprising considering where Lucas was pulling sources from
If I could move stuff with my mind, I would convert to Jedism today.
Pretty sure I’d go full Sith. I’m not super big on hate, but if I could move things and influence people with my mind I’m under no illusions that I would use that power for good.
I don’t know if I would trust myself with that power. I hope my worldview is correct because if I ever got it I would try to reshape the world into how I wish it could be. Probably not the best idea but honestly beating our currect system is a low bar so I’d give myself a good chance.
Very true. And more easily said than done, unfortunately.
A combination of this and avoiding political news and discussion altogether (as much as I can anyway).
What’s the point of reading, discussing and/or arguing when in the end the only thing that matters is your vote (and money/time if you’re able and so inclined).
The news tries to rile you up, and all I really need to know is who won once the election happens, until then I’m avoiding it.
I have blocked every news and political centered community i see here; it helps with the stress and my mental health a lot. Particularly since I have particular views that compels me to ruffle feathers, get nasty comments and be ignored on every political community across the whole spectrum.
It’s easier to just don’t try to post until tempers cool down, if ever. If I don’t see news then I don’t have to reply and share, and probably lowers the stress a notch
But isn’t that like over half the communities? Is there anything left besides meme reposts?
Less than 10, after that I get the occasional reference but deep in the list
There would be far fewer anxiety disorders diagnosed if people did this.
there are more than a million less people alive in the United States today from a mismanaged federal global pandemic response because trump was in the big chair the last time, i’m sure the hundreds of millions effected by their loss, share your same karmic acceptance, that their lives were meaningless because they couldn’t control who was making (or purposefully not making) the decisions their fates depended upon. all very zen.
And what does me having ulcer from worrying about it do?
Alcohol, cannabis, and limiting my exposure to news/politics. It’s working wonders, TBH.
That actually sounds like you’re not doing well at all.
This is what we do outside of election season as well. We, as a people, are not doing well… But at the same time, i think we’re doing the best we can considering the state of things.
Our society is sick.
Yes. Substance abuse is not healthy. Source: child of an alcoholic.
There’s abuse, and then there’s taking the edge off
Yes, but we’re not talking about taking the edge off, we’re talking about substance abuse here…
Someone using substances to avoid reality is, by my definition, abusing them.
Source: child of an alcoholic.
I respect the struggle you went thru and your choices for yourself. As someone who dealt with alcoholism you were exposed to the worst of it. However, some of us like to enjoy life and get a buzz on without hurting anyone and I don’t think that’s abusive.
Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Neither of these statements make it impossible for someone to regularly enjoy alcohol or cannabis without hurting people.
Honestly, other than voting and trying to get those around me to actually give a shit, I’m not. Like in the past two elections, I’m having trouble grasping the fact that half of the (voting) country wants to elect a fascist. My mother told me over the phone that one of her neighbors is voting for Trump because “his wife is absolutely gorgeous”. Like, how do you even respond to that, especially in any calm way?
Oh, and someone here reminded me: cannabis. Lots and lots of it.
If you vote for someone because you think their wife is hot I don’t think you should be allowed to vote.
Reminds me of some French women who voted for Macron because he married a woman 25 years older than him (formerly his highschool literature teacher).
Oh, and someone here reminded me: cannabis. Lots and lots of it.
I shudder to think about how poorly I’d be handling things if I didn’t have cannabis lol
Until the election happens I’m going about my life as normal, because I’m not about to self destruct while she still has a chance. If she wins I’m going to celebrate that I can keep living as I am.
In the meantime, I’m also making my exit plans in case Trump wins. I’m an openly leftist, transgender, neurodivergent, latina immigrant and performance artist. I’m going to be in the first wave of people rounded up.
Is trump planning to round up artists?
I assume the reason they brought it up is because artists commonly publish their work and are therefore easier to find. If they decide to express themselves they then are far easier to find than others.
He’s openly talked of rounding up illegal immigrants, and changing the laws about what makes immigrants legal. If he acts on even half the threats he has made, a lot of people are in danger.
Yeah, I know. I asked about artists though.
Erm ackshually can you stop being concerned for your mortal safety? You made a minor error in your statement and I insist that you verify my counterargument is correct 🤓
What the hell are you talking about‽
I just wanted to know if trump has made some more stupid statements. I had just not heard of any attacks on artists and wanted to know more.
My apologies then. I assumed bad faith.
While I’m not a drag performer, I don’t trust these troglodytes to be able to tell the difference between other kinds of performance art and drag. I also expect them to define any performance art created by a trans person as drag, and we’ve all seen how they treat any form of drag
