Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last week’s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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      3 months ago

      This is a license for stalkers & abusers ! No surprise from someone like Elon I suppose

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      I’m really really not happy about this. There is one person I’ve been trying to keep out for the last few years and now they can come crawl all my fucking posts?? And report my account!?

      Edit: apparently being protected should offer me some protection still.

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      He also put ‘everything you post is now training data for ais’ in his tos apparently. So nightshade poison those images and start building a following on other sites artists. (And as a non artist, reminder to self to like and repost more artists I like).

      E: quick source

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      I really wonder what the meeting looked like where they decided on that change, because I’m struggling coming up with a single argument for it that doesn’t boil down to giving abusive asshats more playtime.

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        my bet: tweets that came to felon’s attention which he couldn’t view because the poster had block felon

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      You know, I can’t tell if this is supposed to be “I know you’re saying that calling unhoused people vermin is some Nazi shit, but it’s more complicated than that” or “I know calling unhoused people vermin is some Nazi shit, and I’m honestly okay with that”.

      Gonna guess the latter given where it’s coming from and the fact that the actual “more complicated” is a salad of non sequiturs.

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    New piece from The Atlantic: The Age of AI Child Abuse is Here, which delves into a large-scale hack of Muah.AI and the large-scale problem of people using AI as a child porn generator.

    And now, another personal sidenote, because I cannot stop writing these (this one’s thankfully unrelated to the article’s main point):

    The idea that “[Insert New Tech] Is Inevitabletm” (which Unserious Academic interrogated in depth BTW) took a major blow when NFTs crashed and burned in full view of the public eye and got rapidly turned into a pop-culture punchline.

    That, I suspect, is helping to fuel the large scale rejection of AI and resistance to its implementation - Silicon Valley’s failure to make NFTs a thing has taught people that Silicon Valley can be beaten, that resistance is anything but futile.

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          “O Cent O Pence (R)” is an anagram for “Necropotence”

          Trump is clearly campaigning on the critically overlooked black draw engine platform, possibly to spite blue voters.

          Edit: “One Percent Co.” was right there! It’s all coming together now!

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        ok my first thought was to make a joke about castle warfare, despite my knowledge set being ephemera from a childhood appreciating tech trees in video games. So I did some research:

        • The etymology of “moat” is that it comes from the word “motte”. I will not elaborate.
        • Moats were effective against early forms of siege warfare, like battering rams, siege towers, and mining out the foundations of a castle’s defences, or anything that required approaching the castle directly
        • Moats were made somewhat obsolete by siege artillery, which did not need to be in the direct vicinity of the castle

        Err so yeah. Make your own jokes, ig.

        Anyway, this has been MoatFacts™️. Paging @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de for better commentary*

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          In this context, “moat” is a cargo-cult invocation of Warren Buffett and Benjamin Graham. Just another square on the hackernews bingo

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          idk what to exactly put there, moat is still an obstacle even in modern context, but assault on a castle with a moat using modern weaponry would be hilariously one-sided. you can suppress defenders with something, use a bridge layer to get inside the moat, then let combat engineers do their shenanigans to “open” castle one way or another. or you can use helis to do the same, or you can just level it all with artillery or airstrike or maybe even loads of ATGMs

          that said it’s not completely useless. moats but dry were used as a part of fixed fortifications in ww1 quite successfully. freshly invented electrified barbed wire fence and machine guns made them quite hard to pass, especially if you are, say, a peasant from tula oblast born in 1898 that has never seen powerline before. i think the last proper moat use in large-scale warfare happened during iran-iraq war, in battle of the marshes, when iraqis flooded previously dry area known as fish lake and put underwater coils of barbed wire and high-voltage cables. defensive tactic used there was to shoot at assaulting iranians to make them abandon or fall out of their boats or amphibious vehicles, then when they were in the water high voltage lines were energized. iranians eventually crossed the marshes entirely using speedboats. maybe it’s not that outdated considering that last recored bayonet charge happened in 2004 (by brits in iraq). ymmv

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      Think this might be the first tweet of Roko I somewhat agree with. At least Roko did something somewhat intellectual in creating pascals wager for nerds. Musks intellectual accomplishments are worse. He thinks the derivative function is some sort of glorious masterpiece of math, and he doesn’t seem to understand chess. I think the only things he really created was the handle that sinks into the car, and the look of the cybertruck.

      Funny to see the Rationalists start to turn on their glorious savior from AGI doom. (Which has been happening for a while now it seems, some even argue he never actually interacted with anybody from the Rationality community (btw before he blocked people being able to see all people you follow on twitter he followed slatestarcodex)))

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        Okay but “Elon is not smarter than me” is a universally true statement in the exact same way as “dumb as a rock” is a universally applicable idiom.

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        That launch happened Feb 2018. By that time, I was already solidified as a musk sceptic and didn’t pay attention to the hubbub. Thinking back on it:

        1. Why was this a thing?
        2. per wikipedia:

        Musk explained he wanted to inspire the public about the “possibility of something new happening in space” as part of his larger vision for spreading humanity to other planets.’

        What I like about the phrasing “possibility of something new” is that nothing new really happened with that launch. We’ve already sent all kinds of junk into space in configurations varying in impressiveness.

        1. Naming the mannequin Starman falls apart since the eponymous starman is an extra terrestrial. Just goes to show that Musk is not a Real NerdTM and just makes surface level references to look cool.
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          Why was this a thing?

          Publicity stunt for both SpaceX and Tesla, as well as Musk himself, and a successful one at that.

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            🙄🙄🙄

            Hope Musk’s existence and influence today was worth it, nerds from 2018!

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          I was also a Elon skeptic back-then, but I’ll admit I did get a kick out of the “don’t panic” dashboard.

          But golly does he read H2G2 completely wrong (transcript):

          I think and it highlighted an important point which is that a lot of times the question is harder than the answer. And if you can properly phrase the question, then the answer is the easy part. So, to the degree that we can better understand the universe, then we can better know what questions to ask. Then whatever the question is that most approximates: what’s the meaning of life? That’s the question we can ultimately get closer to understanding. And so I thought to the degree that we can expand the scope and scale of consciousness and knowledge, then that would be a good thing.

          It’s backwards! It misses the joke! It took thousands of years and they got a nonsensical answer before any question! It took a thousand more and they got a nonsensical—incompatible—question! It has been theorized that should someone understand the universe it would be replaced by something more complicated! It has also been theorized this has already happened! Also regarding scale of knowledge, Trin Tragula definetly showed that the One thing you can’t afford to have in this universe, is a sense of perspective!

          Surely his reading comprehension isn’t actually this bad, and he only got a bad meme-cliffnotes version of the radio-series/books/movies!?!

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      This person has certainly committed to this philosophy, even to the extent of spending less than one week of thought coming to this very conclusion.

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      the raw, mediocre teenage energy of assuming you can pick up any subject in 2 weeks because you’ve never engaged with a subject more complex than playing a video game and you self-rate your skill level as far higher than it actually is (and the sad part is, the person posting this probably isn’t a teenager, they just never grew out of their own bullshit)

      given how oddly specific “application auth protocol” is, bets on this person doing at best minor contributions to someone else’s OAuth library they insist on using everywhere? and when they’re asked to use a more appropriate auth implementation for the situation or to work on something deeper than the surface-level API, their knowledge immediately ends

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          the absolute worst type of coworker from my cubicle days: heard about a technology at a conference, decided they invented it

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          so uh, they keep self-fellating on Twitter about how they invented their own CAD program over the objections of the haters

          here it is, it’s an extremely thin wrapper around the typescript version of manifold with live reloading on changes. note that not only is manifold already a CAD library, they already have a web-based editor that reloads the model on code changes, and kache’s live reloading is just nodemon. the server part looks like it’s barely modified from a code example. the renderer is just three.js grabbed from a CDN.

          it’s so weird they didn’t take the necessary 2 weeks to learn how to write the CAD parts of the CAD system they made!

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        Fun fact: The plain vanilla physics major at MIT requires three semesters of quantum mechanics. And that’s not including the quantum topics included in the statistical physics course, or the experiments in the lab course that also depend upon it.

        Grad school is another year or so of quantum on top of that, of course.

        (MIT OpenCourseWare actually has fairly extensive coverage of all three semesters: 8.04, 8.05 and 8.06. Zwiebach was among the best lecturers in the department back in my day, too.)

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      Oh I certainly did meet a lot of people employed in auth related stuff that clearly spent only 2 weeks on learning anything about OpenID and I certainly didn’t not hate their guts and wished they were replaced by a small shell script

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      Jesus GNU Christ, Live your life so that no one ever produces a systematic classification of your opinions that looks like this

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    Me, a nuclear engineer reading about “Google restarting six nuclear power plants”

    lol, lmao even