Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it’s easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.
If it helps, most of this inter-instance drama comes from a surprisingly small group of people. I’ve blocked most of them (looks like I missed the OP here) and it’s much quieter now. Looking at my block list, they’re mostly from .world, but that could be due to the large population.
It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.
You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.
If you’re unhappy why stay? Personally I’m happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.
some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great…but it could be better.
just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that
Sounds like you picked the wrong instance. The one I use doesn’t defederate, from anyone. So when some drama about "should we defederate from some server because they are a big corp/because they are right wing/because they are tankies/because they allow loli/whatever, I basically get to watch and laugh knowing it’s not going to effect me.
Can’t be any worse than the linux rabbit holes on here over just mention of anything electronic. I’m not even arguing it’s like someone obsessed with garden tools and that’s all they can talk about.
To them: Just give it a rest for a second please and talk about literally anything else going on in your life maybe even stick to the topic once in a while.
It’s sad when fanboys make AI generated output seem more interesting and well adjusted.
Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it’s easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.
If it helps, most of this inter-instance drama comes from a surprisingly small group of people. I’ve blocked most of them (looks like I missed the OP here) and it’s much quieter now. Looking at my block list, they’re mostly from .world, but that could be due to the large population.
It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.
You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.
If you’re unhappy why stay? Personally I’m happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.
same logic as “if u hate america then leave”.
some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great…but it could be better.
I wonder how long until .world defederates from .world.
inshallah
.world is just where right-wingers go to pretend they’re not right-wingers.
The whole point of federation seems to be the ability to have villain instances that we all fight about. PVP social media
Sounds like you picked the wrong instance. The one I use doesn’t defederate, from anyone. So when some drama about "should we defederate from some server because they are a big corp/because they are right wing/because they are tankies/because they allow loli/whatever, I basically get to watch and laugh knowing it’s not going to effect me.
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yep… with everything going on in life, globally and personally, I really can’t think of anything i give fewer fucks about than lemmy in-fighting
grow the fuck up
Can’t be any worse than the linux rabbit holes on here over just mention of anything electronic. I’m not even arguing it’s like someone obsessed with garden tools and that’s all they can talk about.
To them: Just give it a rest for a second please and talk about literally anything else going on in your life maybe even stick to the topic once in a while.
It’s sad when fanboys make AI generated output seem more interesting and well adjusted.
I’m mainly on Lemmy becuase it’s open source and like the idea and I want it to flourish and therefore every defederation makes me sad :(