• Implying US healthcare is fast or good

    We have some of the worst health outcomes in the global north and wait times are very high due to private insurance companies trying to make everything as slow and difficult as possible

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    Coming from a country with socialized healthcare, this reads like a strawman

    The waiting times aren’t a constant, it’s weighted based on your needs

    If you have an acute but not life threatening problem, you can either book a time with a nurse or a doctor (usually you’ll see them in a couple of days at the worst times), and depending on the seriousness of the issue you’ll get bumped up in the queue, or you can go to the ER and wait for a few hours

    Operations like surgeries can take months before you get them, but once again if the issue is serious enough to debilitate and prevent you from functioning in your day-to-day life, you’ll get bumped in the queue

    And most importantly, if it’s life threatening, you’ll get a free helicopter ride to a hospital on the other side of the country if you need a specialist that’s not available closer to you, and they’ll move mountains to save you

    The cost is usually something like $30-$40 for a night in the hospital (all-inclusive, I spent one night in hospital last year, got three blood works, five consultations with two different doctors, ultrasound and four meals, would have cost the same if I got an MRI or a helicopter ride)

    The biggest actual downfalls of socialized healthcare I’ve experienced are dental care (not free, but still heavily subsidized) and mental health (the worst waiting times, but even then it’s mostly due to lack of mental health professionals, the care itself is subsidized for the first three years)

    And get this, if you want something faster or better, you can still pay some extra and go for a private provider (the services are like 100-300% more expensive, but the baseline is still in the range of tens or hundreds of dollars, not thousands)

    And the most important part is the medicine, insulin is like $200/100ml without government subsidies, if you have a prescription it’s less than $100 for a year’s supply

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    Honestly I’m mixed about medical assistance in dying. I know that capitalism and cheaper solution etc., but it’s also an important piece of bodily autonomy

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      I think medical assistance in dying is perfectly fine, and it’s a necessary tool for people who have terminal disease to be able to end their lives with dignity. The problem arises when you introduce this option without also providing a solid social safety net to go along with it.

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      one time in high school some guy asked me “hey are you authoritarian left or [i forgot literally everything he mentioned]” and it was at the time when i had no fucking clue about anything so i kept asking “what the fuck are you talking about”, then i was told that “i am a centrist”. of course i said “shut the fuck up with your bullshit” because the fuck do you mean central i am not the point where the world is revolving i am not left because i am here and i am not right because i am always fucking wrong

      the person who kept pestering me with the poolitical cumpiss was a self-proclaimed capitalist who was edgy as fuck and scalped nike shoes and shit. when i see a poocomp i think of a shmuck i haven’t seen since high school who believed is better than everyone because he resells sneakers

      (p*lcomp is dogshit and doesn’t help)

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    what would be authright? restricting healthcare to only a certain race/group of people and giving the rest bare bones? or making healthcare affordable only if they’re that race/group? or just relying on “religious/alternative medicine”, rejecting modern medicine as “marks of the beast” and “playing god”?

    and what country would be authright?

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      The US, Canada, and UK are authright, as well as the rest of the West. This PCM shitpost meme is not accurate and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

      Also, Canada is being considered authleft, which is laughable. Canada is not representative of a society which prioritizes quality of life and health of workers above profit, where metrics such as population per physician are lowered drastically to make healthcare available and accessible to everyone.

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/instance/1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf

      Imagine not having to switch doctors because of crumbling medical infrastructure and doctors leaving small towns for higher paid jobs at wealthier cities. So-called “authleft” healthcare would be examples set by the USSR, China, Cuba, and other AES nations. Everywhere else is authright.

      As I said earlier, p*lcomp memes are reactionary and shouldn’t be taken seriously.