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    2 months ago

    I think, in general, it was more apathy. I know too many people with the kind of narrow world view that makes them not see the difference between the two parties. All they see the slow slide into a capitalist dystopia and they just check out. 7 million less votes can’t be pinned on one issue. It was a hundred issues that haven’t changed in forty years.

    And honestly, that’s the brilliance of the GOP’s insanity. They’ve driven down engagement. Then everything about the Post-Truth Era has reinforced that. This is especially true of the positive aspects of Biden’s administration.

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      I generally agree with you, and I would also add that the DNC has been happy to go along with the Republican party to advance corporate interests.

      It’s not like we didn’t know a lot of the tactics that the Republican party has employed for the last 30 years. These aren’t giant secrets, and they could be combated, except most Washington Democrats don’t want to, presumably because their corporate backers don’t want to.

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    2 months ago

    We need progressive representation. Maybe the DNC will clue in … Eventually. But it would be even better if independent candidates were not eliminated by the two big parties.

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      I’m skeptical. Too many are wrapped up in the money. They aren’t getting lavish gifts, paid trips, and cushy jobs after their stints in power by having grassroots campaigns or working for the people.

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      2 months ago

      No. They didn’t try to show her anything, because they don’t care about her ego. Why would they?

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        Cuz they were crowing all election about how voters should tech her a lesson over Gaza??? Were u under a rock???

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          Apparently. I peruse reddit at work and that wasn’t the sentiment there. Here? Sure. Facebook and Instagram? Nah.

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    This is the same poll as was taken down last time. And the takeaways aren’t being objectively discussed by Common Dreams or IMEU.

    The swing states set Economy first, Gaza second. Gaza leads only if you include every state. And There’s no real discussion of the negative side. How many voters would she lose in swing states for breaking with Biden’s message? Particularly Pennsylvania, their must win state, which had the lowest support for Gaza.

    I think we can realistically say Gaza is a big issue for Democrats but we already knew that from previous polling. I think we can also realistically say that the combination of her Gaza policy, Economic policy, and support for the most extreme immigration legislation in my lifetime, all contributed to her loss.

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    What makes me sad is that everyone is focused on gaming the election. The question shouldn’t be about what position on Gaza might have gotten Harris more votes. It should be about what Harris believed was the right policy. Not that I think that actually had much to do with it either.

    We need to elect people who make decisions based on ethics and not on polls.

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      The cross tabs are right there. 1078 people were polled. The poll looks fine. The articles are sensational.

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    2 months ago

    Backing

    You’re really confusing “not opposing” with “supporting”. #54%.

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      She banned the uncommitted movement from negoatiating as well as Palestinian speakers at the DNC rally, then she talked about Israel’s right to defend itself along with no indication of change of policy from Biden.

      So I think backing and supporting is pretty accurate here.

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    Idiots. They contributed to Trump getting elected, who will be a thousand times worse for Gaza than Harris would have been. These are dumb voters. Fuck them.

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      Sweet, I can’t wait for our first election to not be influenced by dumb voters. When’s that going to happen? I guess we should just keep losing until then.