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    11 days ago

    Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

    And I’ll help them do that. Cool?

    Yeah, I’m late to the party, but I’m probably just gonna block and move on. You seem like a walking ball of contradiction, and trying to figure out your actual views is probably what is pissing some folks off.

    I don’t think you should be banned, but I don’t need to interact with someone helping to spread pro-trump messaging.

    Removed image because it’s not actually the one I’m fishing for in my ridiculously unorganized folder of quips.

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      11 days ago

      I mean, I think they should be banned because they’re clearly just spreading misinformation and division. “I’m not a conservative, I’m totally a socialist! I just build conservative communities and support conservative ideas because I want to support them! Not because I agree with them!”

      “It’s not trolling! I’m just sharing articles for funsies! I’m a retired socialist and do it in my free time! I just share doomer socialist content with socialists, and inflammatory conservative content with conservatives! That’s a totally normal and fun thing to do for a lifelong socialist!”

      “Don’t take lemmy so seriously guys, its not like political discussion influences political action and those actions have direct consequences on people’s lives! Politics can be fun!”

      Fuck off, troll.

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        Yeah, I ended up going with a block anyhow. They may be legit carrying separate, distinct views in their head, but it was already feeling a little self contradictory by the time we were a couple layers deeper.

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          Have to defer to Occam’s razor, not Hanlon’s, unfortunately. The simplest answer is more often right when deciding between malice and stupidity, and this user’s actions can most simply be explained as trolling.

          Blocking and banning are the only reasonable responses to trolls who play these games with their words and intentions and who thrive on being the nice, innocent victim in response to every challenge.

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        What misinformation am I spreading? Articles from ap news and Reuters are misinformation now?

        Ohhh, wait, you mean they are articles you don’t like. Be sure not to clink on the links to read them then.

        Thanks, friend!!

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      and trying to figure out your actual views is probably what is pissing some folks off

      Why should someone’s political views “piss someone folks off”? If there is no racism or bigotry or anything illegal involved, is shouldn’t piss anyone off. You guys take Lemmy WAY too seriously. But of course, you are welcome to block.

      I don’t think you should be banned, but I don’t need to interact with someone helping to spread pro-trump messaging.

      I appreciate your honesty. Especially in these times. I respect and support your right to disregard me and move on.

      And bruh, I gotta follow your example and save me a folder of quips!

      Thanks, mate!

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        Why should someone’s political views “piss someone folks off”?

        It would be the “I’m a socialist but nearly all my posts are pro-Trump” bit I think. The ball of contradictions.

        But also, supporting someone who is setting up new internment , uh deportation, no, concentration camps, among other actions that are kicking the legs out from under our nation and causing the deaths of innocents would be a decent reason to be pissed off about someone’s political views.

        I appreciate your honesty. Especially in these times. I respect and support your right to disregard me and move on.

        I’ll probably wait until I can find the right quip to post. The point of it is along the lines of “all views deserve equal consideration only if you don’t actually look at the content of some of those views.” Because you seem to think you’re just playing fair, when what you are actually doing is supporting the up and coming dictatorial fascist regime.

        And in reply to one of your other questions - all conservatives and republicans may not be fascist bigots, but it’s also clearly not a problem for them that their elected representatives are. That’s pretty much enough for me to know what I need to know about them.

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          I’m not supporting anything of the sort. I am posting links to news articles that are published by major news orgs. I don’t write the articles, and I’ve never said I support everything in the articles.

          If you post an article by AP News or Reuters about someone who hates Luigi, does that mean you subscribe to that point of view?

          I also post news about earthquakes and ufo’s and tornado’s. Does that mean I support all of these things?

          I post news articles that I think are interesting.

          If I were a conservative, then why wouldn’t I just say that?

          People are already annoyed by me. I already have calls to ban me. So admitting I am a conservative wouldn’t change any of that.

          In other words, I have no reason to lie.

          And even if I were conservative, there is no law or rule against that. Trump won the election. Does that mean the US is full of nazis? No.

          There are already thousands of anti-trump articles on Lemmy. Me posting ones few that don’t paint him in an unflattering light isn’t going to end the world.

          Now having said all that, you are certainly welcome to disagree with me and block me. I have no issue with that. I am merely defending myself against false accusations.

          I also created and mod community for Socialist Workers Party–who I voted for in the election by the way. I also host a mastadon account for them and an x.com account for them. And I have had my views published in their paper. So by your argument that I post things that I must agree with, then that means I agree with Socialism. Correct?

          Thanks, friend!

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            Trump won the election. Does that mean the US is full of nazis?

            Means it’s full of people who are cool with us heading that way. Have some quips, though still not the one I was looking for.

            I also post news about earthquakes and ufo’s and tornado’s. Does that mean I support all of these things?

            Do you roll out the red carpet for them and explicitly say you are helping them?

            Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

            And I’ll help them do that. Cool?

            Nope, not cool.

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              Do you roll out the red carpet for them and explicitly say you are helping them?

              Nope. And I haven’t done that for Trump either.

              I DID say that for the Socialist Workers Party tho, and I’m setting up a local office in my city for them.

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                I DID say that for the Socialist Workers Party tho, and I’m setting up a local office in my city for them.

                Like I said, walking contradictions. It’s tiring.

                Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

                And I’ll help them do that. Cool?

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                  Meh, I actually don’t take Lemmy very seriously. I’m a retired dude that thinks it’s interesting. I fuck around on here until I decide what to do with my day.

                  It’s not my identity though, so not tiring for me at all. I think some of the nerds here are WAY too invested in what gets posted on a little-known online forum.

                  It’s fun and all, but I don’t think it’s very important to real life at all lol

                  Thanks, amiko!!