Robert F. Kennedy Jr., independent challenger for president and anti-vaccine activist, has a cockamamie solution for drug addicts and people who use medication for depression or ADHD: strip people of their tech gadgets and send them to government-funded "wellness farms" to grow organic food. Doesn't that sound suspiciously... like a labor camp?! Kennedy extolled this […]
he’s a cunt, but that’s not what he said at all….
he said he wanted to establish optional camps to help people get off these drugs if they want to… and that they would grow their own organic food, because he sees diet as an underlying cause… not labor for other people….
who knows what the real camps would be like but this is an old story taken to extreme assumptions
The issue is that what you see as an extreme assumption just seems entirely predictable to others.
These guys are liars. They lie about everything, and say whatever they think will be advantageous at any given moment.
read about the real camps in guantanamo bay
Those are for migrants.
These wellness camps are for American undesirables
that’s fantasy, the migrant camps are real.
Ah I see you are a comrade who buys into phrasing like special operations not meaning invasion. Quite interesting isn’t it how effective simple word play leads to some members of the population insisting it isn’t what other people see it to be. Concentration camp? No no comrade we don’t call it that anymore.
ah i see you’re a fucking idiot
The policy, as stated by RFK is a progressive, left wing, anti punishment, anti incarceration, pro rehabilitation with origins in Europe.
Implementation could be right wing but at face value this policy is left wing.
Centrists will call anything progressive. Remember this shit next time a centrist calls one of their own number a progressive. They think concentration camps are progressive. They think concentration camps are progress itself.
Rehabilitation of illegal drugs in place of incarceration is undeniably left wing.
Treatment for SSRI addiction was voluntary, not authoritarian.
But you do have a point. Vigilance is important. Concentration camps were not announced, but an executive order could turn a “farm” into one overnight.
The clue to the intentions will be in the scale of this policy. 2 farms is not worrying. 200 farms is.
You are a German citizen in late 1939 swallowing each and every Hitler’s lie. Wake up before it’s too late.
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And guantanamo has been a detention camp since the Gulf War. The US became fascist long before Trump.
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You are very wrong.
Detention of citizens (foreign or domestic) without due process is a fascist policy. Whether it for 30 or 30,000.
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Correct. Just like it only takes one hitler salute.
Sure you can say it, but people will think you are an idiot.
Come on. As you were typing that you must have thought maybe this is a little bit fascist.
I think you are denying fascism.
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It kind of sounds like you are unfamiliar with the kinds of “options” people who get caught for drug related offenses are given. Even now it includes things like “optionally” being an informant, or else going to jail or prison. Or in other cases, “optionally” admit you are an addict and submit yourself to a court ordered rehabilitation program, or again, circle the incarceration drain. Should be noted that many of these “rehabilitation” programs in rural areas are faith based - as in, they care more about turning you into a Christian (of their particular denomination), than they do about rehabilitating your actual addiction.
I have a suspicion that this new program is going to coincide with an upsurge in the drug war. I think it would be wise to err on the side of caution and stay away from all federally illegal substances. Supposedly RFK wants to fund this with cannabis taxes, but that is still federally illegal. So they could just as easily institute a cannabis crackdown if they wanted.
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What do you mean? According to the article it’s what he said recently and is actively pursuing.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/rfk-jr-wants-to-send-people-on-antidepressants-to-government-wellness-farms/
afaik he mentioned this one on the campaign trail in 2024 on a remote interview
where he wanted to legalize cannabis and create wellness farms where instead of going to jail, drug offenders can go there to grow “organic food” and learn to be part of a community. he said that others could voluntarily go there if they want, such as people addicted to opiates and prescription drugs like benzos, SSRIs, benzos.
it made the news cycle last year and it was taken mostly of out ccontext and it’s making the news cycle again, I guess.
my personal opinion is the guy is a loon but this is a distraction from the realtime dismantling of the government we’re witnessing right before our eyes
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How do you know what is going through his worm infested brain? I think its fair to assume the worst about this idiot and extrapolate what he actually means when he talks about these ‘wellness’ camps.
At the very least, he wants to take meds away from people who need them to survive and be happy. That’s already batshit levels of insane and cruel. I don’t think forced labor camps are too much of a stretch from there.
he probably wants to but that isn’t what he said… 8 months ago….
the actual president, who actually has some power to create concentration camps, has actually begun, in reality, doing that….
oh but you don’t care because it’s more important to assume the worst because you think white americans might be affected by rfk jr’s assumed double secret plans
I mean I’m not a white american, and I don’t see why race matters in this conversation anyways. I’m not on meds, either, but I will speak out for those who are. Obviously, fuck Donald Trump and his literal concentration camp, but this thread was about RFK, and his hypothetical(for the moment) concentration camps, so idk what you are on about.
We would probably be comrades irl. I literally think borders should be illegal, I think you are mad at the wrong person here.
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RFK Jnr has invented rehab.
basically… rehab for people on ssri’s and adderall….
the real danger is people who need ssri’s being convinced to stop
I don’t see why you’re downvoted. The headline is directly misquoting him.
I don’t agree with him on much, but having optional organic farms like a peace corp is not a terrible idea to help people. There’s lots of mental health benefits to getting into nature, eating healthy, being active, etc. It’s not going to help everyone, but that idea on its own isn’t crazy for a government mental health program.
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Up to the countryside and down to the mountains, then?
Or, you know, the New Deal.
The current administrations track record with things such as the COVID-19 epidemic would probably end with us smashing sparrows. I would love a proper New Deal - I hope the subsequent administration/government hires artists and architects and we spend our money on building new hospitals and painting them with murals. I would love protections for small farmers - perhaps the avian flu epidemic will devastate Tyson etc to the point small farming will be the only feasible option for a while and we can install protections so that this shit never happens again.
That is not what is happening here though. The weaponization of mental health against minoritized groups, political dissidents, and activists is clearly the plan here.
The journalism is trash. The Author may think RFK is “Batshit” but they should never include such a word in a factual news report.
That’s an interesting way to delude yourself about it. Points for creativity I guess.
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tankie
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