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      Funnily enough, women choosing to be alone also pisses those guys off. Basically, women having autonomy pisses them off.

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      Women need to stop choosing to be alone.

      And start choosing to keep around women friends, and we’ll-armed.

      These pieces of genetic filth don’t believe no is a valid answer.

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    If a young man plans to treat my daughter with anything but respect, I’m gonna beat his ass and his dad’s ass.

    It won’t be a fight either. It’ll be a mugging. An actual crime.

    I’m ok with that. My record is clean.

    I’ll get probation. Maybe.

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    My Gen Z daughter is straight but she hates men because the majority of the ones she has met at school or work are misogynistic and creepy.

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      That’s so shitty, but I’m glad she at least knows better than to settle for some creep.

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      There’s enough people on both sides fucking. Every side you can think of, everyone, everywhere, is fucking. World pop tracker keeps running up.

      Back when I attended church, I shit you not, the preacher from the pulpit asked the congregation who was having the most kids (the sermon I think was based on kids & families). Then he said “The Mos-lems, the Mos-lems (Muslims) are having the most kids & they have large families.” If I remember correctly, I think he was making the point that if Muslims have many many kids & faithful Christians have fewer, eventually, there will be more Muslims than Christians & this was a big problem; Christians need to devote themselves to having more children and “raising them right”, or the Muslims will become the majority & “win”, and Christianity would dwindle & die out.

      And here’s the thing, I guess strictly technically speaking he might not be entirely wrong, but that doesn’t make it right. If you’re just breeding to get butts in pews, idk, feels a little dirty to me.

      My main takeaway from that sermon, which I have told multiple friends & now am telling all of you: a war fought with vaginas is a war in which everyone loses. Your opposition is dumb as fuck. You, too, are dumb as fuck. Don’t go popping out babies just to pop out more babies, take it from me you’re not really all that special, stop it, get some help.

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        It’s more than a little bit dirty. If you bring someone into this world for any purpose other than to love them, it is existentially criminal, to me.

        I know this isn’t exactly a brave opinion around here.

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        Well he could just appreciate his culture and views it in a good light, they likely view him in the same way, its human nature to other people we dont fully take the time to understand. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin, our love of our own culture turns into hate of another due to human nature, a ying and a yang.

        Okay, now time to take another hit.

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          Indeed, happy 4/20, my dude.

          There’s a lot of tribalism & you’re right, the Mos-lems are probably viewing him in the same way & intentionally fucking, having large families to “win” some culture war. But I think cultural wars are ultimately won through the enforcement of…reality…and the victory of good ideas & common sense. Not religion. Just general goodwill & love, idk, I really need to sleep for work tomorrow.

          Enjoy your weed. 🍃

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      Man here. I would 100% choose dying alone over manipulating some poor woman beaten down by society’s misogyny and trying to subjugate and gaslight her with incel treatment. That probably sounds extreme to these freaks, but my eventual partner will be completely equal and we’ll have a better relationship because of it.

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    Many women are perfectly content being alone and childless. That’s why these guys are actually angry. They need women. Women don’t need them. Rather than improve themselves to appear more appealing to women, they want to enslave and drag women down to their level.

    Politicians looks at numbers. There are lots of degenerates like this, so many you can count on their vote if you entertain their abuse. Politicians see this is an unpopular choice to make with women so now they want to keep women from voting.

    These fuckers should be killed.

    The goal is to create a world that serves the needs of as many people as possible. These fuckers instead want to enslave everyone to as few as possible. They are missing the point. Every time that has happened in history it has led to collapse.

    I just have so much hate in me right now.

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      Actually, I think a lot of women like having a man in their life. I know I do. My relationship with my “man friend" is not traditional. We have separate residences. We spend a lot of time with each other: holidays, overnights, entertaining, travelling, etc. To me it’s perfect. Obviously this wouldn’t be ideal if children were part of the plan, but they are not.

      However, women are NOT incubators. Women are NOT here for men to get their “rocks off”. Women are NOT men’s servants. Women fought long and hard for the right to vote! American politics has begun a campaign to strip women of the fundamental right to vote. So, yah, I’m feeling the hate too, muusemuuse…

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    Women have been fine alone for millenia dude. Men used to kill each other making it so some women would spend the rest of their lives without them. Now many of the men are chosing to remove themselves without dying. Not that I’m one to talk. But I’d rather be a painfully shy man, than an asshole.

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    Women are already figuring out that they are better off alone, thanks to the spread of this anti-female philosophy. If men are going to be selfish partners, in which only their needs are important, women are going to figure out that the only thing they really need men for are sex.

    Women already know they can get laid anytime they feel like it, and men, even the best looking, most charming men, don’t have that same advantage.

    Women don’t need men, men need women, and EVERYBODY knows it.

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      This is me in a nutshell. I just don’t see any upside to dating anymore. And the news gets worse by the day, so I’m no longer even hopeful of the future.

      I mean Trump got Tate a known rapist and sex trafficker released from his house arrest and into the U.S. But a legal immigrant who is INNOCENT, married, and a father gets kidnapped and illegally imprisoned.

      How can any woman not see the excessive hatred towards them?

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        My mom was a lifelong Republican, but was agonizing over voting for Trump, who she knew was a terrible person. Then the Pussy Grabber tape came out, and that sealed it. For the next few years, whenever his name came up, she would go on a prolonged rant, starting with “I dont know how any woman could vote for that man…”

        Now she votes a straight Democratic ticket. The Republican party is dead to her.

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      🤣 I love posts like this… It’s a good reminder that the online world is full of lunatics that never leave their basements, spouting BS as fact with the authority of a 13 year old whose dad is a CIA / Special Forces Hacker!

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      No one needs selfish partners, no one is really better off alone, men have attractive privilege too, anyone can learn how to be a ho doesn’t mean it’s wise.

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        we’re not concerned about good looking and charming men shooting up a university

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            The statement is “women don’t need men, men need women.” Some group of men-without-women will become suicidal-homicidal and shoot up a public area. No group of women-without-men will become suicidal-homicidal and shoot up a public area.

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              In general, yes, almost 100%. However there have been a few female school shooters and I think relationship issues played a part in at least one of their backstories.

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              …I mean…that just plays into classic masculine, testosterone-fueled traits. Anger, rage, inflicting pain & death. That’s what men do. Enough even sign up to inflict pain & death as a job.

              Women? Not so much. “Women-without-men”, as you put it, will have a different response to the same trauma. Not the exact same responses. Equal, but different.

              They might try to kill themselves, but women aren’t as successful at killing themselves as men are. Men are by nature ultra-violent, they make sure the job gets done via gun or other over-the-top means. Women tend to want an easier or painless death, try to overdose or cut themselves. It can work, obviously, but with a smaller success rate.

              I’ve been saying it for over 20 years now, you want to start killing a bunch of random people? Great. Start with yourself. I don’t encourage mass shooters or any of that nonsense; if you’re unhappy, get the help you need or go to the store & buy some rope. Don’t go killing people for no reason other than you being unhappy in life, that’s just dumb & selfish.

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        The best looking and most charming men can get laid easily. You’re delusional

        2 week old account with the month and year inluded in the name.

        You’re soooo smart. 🙄

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    Is there any explanation to why these people think that way? Is it really pettiness or do they have some kind of point (even if its a bad one)?

    I just cannot wrap my head around being so sad and miserable.

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      I’m a dv outreach worker and I’ve done a lot or research. This man may be a dv abuser, he could also be an incel or similar. No decent man thinks this way and happily most men disagree.

      Dv abusers are narcissists who have wildly unrealistic expectations for women, whilst simultaneously having no respect for them. No woman could possibly live up to his impossible expectations, and he kinda sees his partner as his property.

      Incels are more complicated to work out. Best summary I can give is they’re often riddled with self hatred and issues they fail to work on.

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      They are miserable and very insecure. They look to the past, where they can only imagine what that life felt like, and imagine what they would have had back then, that they don’t now, and the big difference is that progress has reduced all the subjugation. So they seek subjugation of others in hopes of reclaiming their security and manhood. When they look back, they see men in control, and only men, and they feel like they got ripped off.

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    News flash: women aren’t the ones complaining about a “loneliness epidemic”. They’ve already learned how to live alone.

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      One step further, even. Women take responsibility for their own emotions, and filling their own needs. So if they feel lonely, they create community, in friends. What I hear, when I hear “loneliness epidemic in men” is men expecting women to tend to or serve their emotions and they aren’t capable of tending to their own emotions. Like a little baby, I don’t know any woman who wants to be responsible for their partners emotions, AND their own. Because it’s not like these men are going to be looking after the womens emotions, the same.

      It’s emotional immaturity. Borderline, sometimes actual emotional abuse. You are supposed to be responsible for filling your own needs, as an adult. I feel like men have just never stopped and noticed all that women do (or ended up being socialised or forced to do).

      I just watched a tik tok that talked about women being called irrational for worrying if everything is together at the holidays, they do everything. Then if they’re walking out the door and worrying if everyone has everything, the husband says “you worry too much, everything will be fine”. Everything is fine, because she’s planned and prepared for every contingency, and it’s entirely overlooked, it’s unseen, unacknowledged work.

      And I can’t help but see the link between what has been baseline accepted / perceived as what women “do” or “women’s responsibilities” in relationships for men, predominantly all the house work, holiday planning, knowing stock levels and needs, kids / friends / family birthdays and needs, doctors appointments, clothing… I can’t understand how that became a basic expectation that one person in the partnership do all of that, and then, women are disengaging from relationships with men, and instead of looking at the environment they created for women, that they wanted to no longer be engaged in that, they doubled down and shouted about how it’s a strangers (all women’s?) job to fix their feelings, while they roll around wailing on the floor (I imagine).

      Ultimately men have been conditioned to not appreciate or see what women do, and to feel like their “manliness” is tied to how much they subjugate another person. And ultimately both of those social dynamics serve capitalism and are predominantly strong in extreme evangelical religions. It makes the rich richer if men are emotionally immature and taught to oppress women. Then women provide free labour to capitalism, emotional support, children and home. If capitalism had to make space for or compensate the work women do, raising children, it would go broke, overnight. It’s not that providing the next generation is a worthless task, it’s that the division of wealth is being hoarded by a handful of people and they violently don’t want to let go of that.

      If someone gets Knickers in a knot, because they know one woman or one man who isn’t like that, you missed my point and that doesn’t detract from my point, I’m not saying if they all don’t do this, it doesn’t hold water, obviously lots are disengaging, currently. Some in a healthy way, some not. I just find all this stuff fascinating to talk about, and the fact it’s hidden from you, you have to piece it together yourself. We’re all being collectively manipulated, on a societal level to, essentially, funnel money to a handful of people. It blows my mind how deep it goes. This whole nuclear family, is relatively new. It’s against our nature and our grain. And it’s very much not working.

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      Men in general aren’t either. It’s just incels. Whenever the talk comes around to them there will always be the inevitable “but let’s try to understand their motives”. It is an ideology of sociopathy and they chose to to adhere to it, not because they are lonely but because they are awful persons.

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        Bullshit. As a white man in America, that’s fucking bullshit. The majority of us are fucking worthless.

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          As someone that is unfortunately privy to the “locker room talk” you are absolutely right. I think I made friends with someone and then they say the absolutely most horrendous things because they feel comfortable enough to go mask off.

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            I’m able to sus out the really heinous people ahead of time, but I keep making the same mistake of mocking vaccine conspiracy theorists to people who end up being vaccine conspiracy theorists when I’m first getting to know them. 🤣

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    The women I know who have given up on dating get involved in big community groups of women sharing hobbies, and seem more fulfilled than ever.

    There’s no female loneliness epidemic. It’s the dudes who are killing themselves.