• megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    9·
    12 days ago

    A few months ago I started moving most of my audio media over to CDs. I don’t trust streaming services to maintain extensive libraries and/or continue to exist.

    We’re already seeing video streaming services remove content from their platforms despite having the rights to it.

    I doubt that Spotify or Apple Music won’t do the same in the near future.

      • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        12 days ago

        Because my parents had a CD burner and a tower of blank CD-RWs. Also, doesn’t need an internet connection for me to accesses them when I’m not at home.

        • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          10 days ago

          Consider that CDs can be fairly ephemeral, and I think it’s a lot worse with home-burned CDs. When you grab something out of your home-burned CD collection in 10 years, there’s a pretty good chance that it won’t work or be super glitchy. Harddrives are way better for longterm storage, since you can easily copy the entire collection before the drive fails (and I think the classic magnetic spinny drives, as opposed to SSDs, also have at least better longevity than CD-RWs if you store them unpowered).

          • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            4·
            10 days ago

            It depends on the type of CD. Normal CDs rely on the shape and reflectivity of the aluminum layer, and if this oxadizes they degrade, the oxidation process is drastically slowed by good storage, and they can last much longer if stored in an inert gas.

            CD-Rs are dye based with the dye being burnt away for recording. Depending on the type of dye, the dye can break down fairly quickly irrelevant of storage conditions, the cheap dyes degrade inevitably with in 10 years.

            CD-RWs (what I’m using) operate on an alloy that is melted to switch it between an amorphous and poly crystalline state to effect reflectivity, and that is fairly stable long term as it is not a chemical change and the alloy is resistant to oxidation, these can be expected to last 20 years under poor storage (exposed to UV and humidity which can damage the plastic) and up to 200 years if stored properly.

            Frankly, I doubt my personal music collection needs to last more than 70 years.

          • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            3·
            11 days ago

            Ain’t it weird how they keep taking out an important feature right before promoting a new service or product that makes it easier to live without it.

            “Why would you need headphone jack when Bluetooth auto connecting earphones”

            “Why would you need swappable/expandable storage when media streaming and cloud storage?”

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        9 days ago

        Resilience to ransomware attacks and electrical faults.

        Also we’re not Elon Musk, who thinks physical media is old technology needs replacement.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    5·
    11 days ago

    I still do burn CDs but it is much less common. Mostly just for retro computers which use CD-ROM. I burn DVDs slightly more often since you can fit larger ISOs on them and they’re more durable (seriously, CDs are so fragile it isn’t even funny, their data layer is completely unprotected, just a thin film on the top).

  • Rezurektme@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    12 days ago

    Unless I die in the next month, I plan on burning more CDs. Added a bunch of new albums to my MP3 player a few months ago

          • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
            51·
            12 days ago

            That’s categorically false. And ultimately, fidelity to what? Modern records are analog pressings of almost always digitally recorded, digitally mixed works. What is the record doing that’s more “faithful” than, say, the original digital master copy?

            • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.worldEnglish
              15·
              12 days ago

              Yes because your BURNT cd hasn’t had a few steps to degrade the quality… a bought cd would be better than a BURNT cd.

              • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
                51·
                12 days ago

                That doesn’t really address the point here. People buy modern vinyl, which is generally several steps from original recordings/mixes as well. It’s literally the same issue. You can always say “it needs to be more faithful,” but faithful to what?

                People don’t buy records because they’re “objectively better” or “more faithful” or whatever terminology we want to use. There are several possible reasons, usually revolving around the physical format itself/the experience and ritual, as well as the tonal hallmarks of lacquer. If you want “fidelity” outside of “simulates what people were listening to upon release,” [edit] most consumer vinyl records are not a good medium. Which is why people buy them - like CD’s - for various reason.

                A burned CD can achieve a lot of different aims, just like a record can. You should actually talk to people in the hobby to inform yourself here.

                • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  12·
                  12 days ago

                  A BURNT cd isn’t lossless so that’s just plain false mate….

                  Bloviate about whatever, but dude asked about burning a cd, you made a comment about vinyl which can be lossless, while a BURNT cd never will. A bought cd yes, as I did already clarify.

              • can@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                11·
                12 days ago

                That’s not the case. We can copy a music CD in a lossless way, losing no information.

                Burning low bitrate mp3s will obviously be worse.

                • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  12 days ago

                  And the music they ripped is what quality…? When you start off without the master files, you’re already at a loss compared to the originals.

                  Ripping a bought cd even with”lossless” methods, won’t beat the original printing. That’s just pure fantasy.

                  Does it matter for on transfer? Unlikely, but how about what someone did before you downloaded the torrent as well?

                  The fidelity of vinyl, is more than a burnt disc. I didn’t think that was an arguable fact.

  • First Majestic Comet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    5·
    12 days ago

    I still burn CDs for my dad all the time, (I also have a few of them for myself too) since our cars have CD players in them, and while I usually play Music through the Aux it’s good to have CDs for when there’s spotty connection and nothing good on the Radio.

    • lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      12 days ago

      Also still use CDs for my car! CDs just feel like the right solution to local music, sometimes I just want to keep my phone in my pocket (or not on me at all) and drive. USB drives feel too easy to lose

    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      12 days ago

      Oh man I forgot about LightScribe! I remember being like 10 and working my butt off for a summer to be able to afford one. Good times

  • colin@lemmy.uninsane.orgEnglish
    4·
    12 days ago

    ngl i feel safer digging through CDs while driving than digging through a music library on some phone touchscreen. probably if i learned to use voice controls i’d feel better about the phone but i’m at that age where i’m comfortable enough with my ways that i’d rather not have to change them.

  • PineRune@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    12 days ago

    I’ll continue to burn Sega Saturn games to CDs for some years still. Especially considering how much it costs to get some of them now.

    • Unlix86@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      10 days ago

      I’m also gen z, and the last CD I burned was last year a debian install CD for a computer that couldn’t boot off of USB

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    3·
    12 days ago

    *will

    And have few days ago. I like spinny media.

    Oh, I also have a half destroyed portable CD player (previous battery leak, damaged screen, broken stop button) that can even play mixed mode CD with MP3 files. That means I can combine lossy and lossless on the same disc. It can even shuffle between the 2 parts, albeit with a slight delay.