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      It’s not their job to do something about it. It is countries of the UN that have to do something about specifically those with nuclear powers.

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    So do something about it. Send in peace-keeping troops to neuter the IDF. We’ve been calling for intervention for over a year and a half.

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    Why is the US continuing to back Israel despite starvation claims and renewed assault on Gaza?

    On a recent episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Senator Bernie Sanders blamed Washington’s reluctance to change course on the financial muscle of lobbying groups. “If you speak up on that issue, you’ll have super Pacs like Aipac going after you,” Sanders said, noting Aipac’s record $14.5m campaign to unseat Democratic representative Jamaal Bowman after he accused Israel of genocide.

    That’s why. AIPAC. They are insanely powerful. They hold incredible influence over our Federal government. Some conspiracy theories are true.

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      AIPAC aligns with the interests of the US State Department, it’s not like the US is opposed to what Israel is doing in the region but can’t do anything about it because AIPAC money. The interests are either monetary with the MIC, geopolitical as wielding Israel as an arm of US control over the middle east, and/or ideological with Christian Zionism. They are practically completely dependent on US weapons and support on the international stage, the US is in control in this relationship

      14 mil is nothing compared to the 14 bil in weapons sales to Israel alone (it was aid, so we the US taxpayers footed the bill, not Israel), let alone the military contracts to develop tech used on civilian populations. The MIC profits immensely just on the testing of new tech on the Palestinians.

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        AIPAC aligns with the interests of the US State Department

        I think it’s more accurate to say that the US state department aligns with the interests of AIPAC, because that’s just how much influence and power AIPAC has.

        it’s not like the US is opposed to what Israel is doing in the region

        Many in the US are opposed to what Israel is doing, but those people have very little representation in the Federal government, largely because of the power and influence of AIPAC.

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          because that’s just how much influence and power AIPAC has.

          The US government has far more power than Israel, let alone AIPAC, could ever have. We have the largest military force on the planet and hundreds of military bases globally. No country or group is able to use US weapons without the knowledge and support of the US State Department, the use of US weapons that we sell (directly or indirectly) is always to prop up the interests of the State Department in that region. AIPAC has such well established in-roads because of how the US benefits from Israel, and also ideological via Christian Zionism to a lesser extent (which far outnumber Jewish Zionists).

          Many in the US are opposed to what Israel is doing, but those people have very little representation in the Federal government

          Yes, when I say US, I’m referring specifically to the administrative government, not the populace. Much of what the US does is directly against the will of the populace, and many things, especially on foreign policy, are kept out of public view. Manufacturing Consent has been a critical aspect to keep much of the foreign policy of the US outside the minds of Americans, and to paint the military actions that are shown in a positive light.

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            interests of the State Department

            And who determines the interests of the State Department? Powerful lobbies, like AIPAC. The defense contractors lobby also has a significant amount of influence, but their interests are aligned. They both benefit from the current Israel policy.

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              No, AIPAC does not steer the interests of the State Department. They do all benefit, and AIPAC plays a role in that. My point is that Israel is not the one in control of US foreign policy in the region.

              I’m not saying you’re doing this here, but some people try to paint AIPAC as in control of the US as a way to frame the conspiracy theory that ‘Jews control the world,’ as the US is the main superpower globally and has much hegemonic control over the globe. Of course, they also intentionally conflate Judaism and Zionism in that process (which I don’t see you doing here). The reason I stress that AIPAC is not in control of the US State Department, is both because it sidelines the role of the US in the Zionist project since the 60’s, and to dispel that kind of conspiracy theory.

              Here, GDF has an in depth analysis on why has and continues to US supports Israel: Part 1 and Part 2. The short answer is money, but the long answer is well worth the watch

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                Here, GDF has an in depth analysis on why has and continues to US supports Israel: Part 1 and Part 2. The short answer is money, but the long answer is well worth the watch

                I’ve seen these videos. They’re great. I really like GDF. The second video especially has several references to the incredible influence that Israel, Zionists, and the Jewish lobby in the US has over US foreign policy in the Middle East.

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                  Oh, yeah in terms of what expansionist actions Israel can get away with, there’s yet to be a limit. Even at the anger of the US State Dept. Yet America still stays committed to supporting Israel despite how often Israel abuses that partnership, since America still benefits off of the destabilization of the region.

                  It’s definitely a death cult. Israel’s overzealous expansionist aims are completely unsustainable and will lead to collapse, along with it’s committed ally the US (and maybe some other Western countries)

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      AIPAC isn’t just Jewish lobbying. It includes fundamentalist christians who are eager to see the rapture. These insane fucking nutjobs are excited to watch the rest of us burn when they get floated up to heaven.

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      I think people are a bit too quick to pin everything on aipac. But you don’t have a state apparatus that’s so dedicated to a policy without multiple reinforcing mechanisms. It’s also anti-Arab racism, it’s also realpolitik and imperial considerations, it’s also the fundamentalist Christian death cult, it’s also the left’s inability to organize a coherent and appealing message, it’s American apathy, fear, and so on.

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      That’s why. AIPAC Exactly, but the American Evangelicals need a shoutout here as well, their unwavering support for Israel to bring about the rapture is also a massive factor.

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      I think it’s part of the reason; the other part is that the representatives are simply not good people , and a significant portion of the population wants to kill people

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        The vast majority of Americans want a weapons embargo on Israel. Even the slim majority of Republicans at this point

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          The vast majority of Americans want a weapons embargo on Israel. Even the slim majority of Republicans at this point

          Source?

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          Only a minority of any genocidal country really want to do it; the problem comes when most sort of go along with

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      Speak about it, tell people around you and protest… put signs of soldirity up, there are many little things you can do just think what you can afford.

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      You can’t do anything in the short term, but if you want to make sure this ends as soon as possible/doesn’t happen again, you have many options. Look up BDS and see what Palestine activists near you are doing.

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      The most a regular person could do is take out one of the politicians involved.

      It would be an extremely selfless act.

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        If you genuinely believe assasinating a politician is going to make others go “Wow, maybe I was wrong” and there won’t be 5 replacements in line, then you’re the type of person who probably celebrated 7 Oct thinking “that will show them”

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      And, depending on what idiots you listen to, Harris voters, which is part of the reason we are dealing with Trump again.

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        Anti-genocide voters weren’t significant enough to listen to, but are significant enough to blame? funny how that works. No representation ever, all of the blame.

        the harris campaign either miscalculated or didn’t care.

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          Look, I’m just saying that those that blamed Harris for wanting to perpetuate the Israeli genocide of Gaza were part of the reason some didn’t vote period.

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            Can you imagine the gall of blaming a politician instead of the voters to whose votes she was entitled no matter what her positions were?

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    UN’s humanitarian chief says aid lorries, which contain baby food and nutrition, are technically in Gaza but have not reached civilians

    Was Israel preventing the trucks from reaching civilians?

    Edit: nevermind I was looking at the article on my phone and it formatted something weird

    Fletcher said five trucks of aid went into Gaza yesterday, but described this as a “drop in the ocean” and totally inadequate for the population’s needs.

    He said the aid lorries, which contain baby food and nutrition, are technically in Gaza but have not reached civilians as they are just on the other side of the border.

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      I also read from other sources that much of the perishable food on the trucks is now rotting because they have been held at the border for so long.