• OutForARip@lemmy.ca
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    I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

    Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

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      I’d rather prefer both sides losing.

      And then a proper democratic revolution on both sides again.

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      Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

      Just because Israel are horrible, doesn’t automatically make the people they’re fighting the good guys.

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        Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I’d want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

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        Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

        Iran has the right to defend themselves. Without nukes, they’re going to end up like Iraq, Libya, or the countless other countries that Israel and the US felt like destroying. They’re champing at the bit to smash Iran to pieces and it’s not going to stop at limiting nuclear capabilities.

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        Hasn’t Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell’s jar to appear any moment now).

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        Most definitely. I want every country on Earth to have their own nuclear weapons. It’s the ultimate deterrent.

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        Funny how liberals never say this about Ukraine and Russia. It’s only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about “both sides bad”

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          Funny how tankies always think “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. They have no capacity for nuance.

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            Well I never said that, so you’re just straw-manning because you can’t address what I actually said.

            And again, funny how this “capacity for nuance” didn’t come out for Ukraine, only for the non-white country. Almost like liberals are ultimately just white supremacists.

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          “non-whites fight back” is an interesting way to describe the fucked up, nuke happy, Ayatollah regime that’s plaguing Iran.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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            Don’t worry, I understand that - while it may seems to be an analogous situation on the surface - Ukraine a White country and Iran is not, and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.

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              Ukraine a White country and Iran is not

              And yet Iran is literally where the “Aryians” originated who were idolized by Hitler.

              , and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.

              Here is the actual thing that makes all the difference in the world. It would be racist to think that Iranians don’t deserve human rights and freedom, which implies they aren’t as good as people in the west.

              Russia, Iran - dictatorships.

              Ukraine - democracy

              Israel - democracy (but moving away)

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                The fact that you consider Israel a democracy when it denies millions of its subjects, not just the right to vote, but all rights at all, further demonstrates that you’re just a white supremacist.

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          It’s only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about “both sides bad”

          To be thinking that Iranians aren’t good enough to deserve human rights and democracy because they aren’t western/white sounds racist.

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            The human right of being carpet bombed by a genocidal ethnostate…

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      given how the US lost so many recent wars, I wouldn’t consider the US a military power.

      they are great at funneling taxpayer money to shareholders pockets. but they can’t win against the protest people in the world.

      they invade, try to set up a puppet state, then leave with the tail between their legs.

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        You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

        Ironically, many have tried (so now we know the result. And the proverb)…

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        This. People don’t like it when I say the US is a Paper Tiger. uS power doesn’t come from its military strength but from its economic strength.

        If pushed hard, it would crumble. The only reason the US has military bases all over is to scare those countries into submission to exploit their workforce. Yet, all those bases are fucking expensive to just maintain. If those countries resisted, then the US loses its economic strength gained from their exploitation, and its military crumbles when it cannot afford to satisfy both it’s military contracts and maintain its presence abroad.

        Not to mention the internal turmoil when the citizens experience the affects on society when the oligarchy can’t subsidize the consumerist lifestyle anymore. Thought that’s happening already thanks to the imperial boomerang.

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      The only way that “Iran” can win is if/when the people overthrow the Supreme Dictator