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      It’s because AI tells you what you want to hear, in your case a summary of know events, likely because you asked so and have a different history than a conspiracy obsessed accounts.

      Also the pepe pfp with the comment ‘based’ are enough.

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    Even if you slap them with the actual, documented footage taken by the US military with video, photos, and paper record of these camps with the EXPLICIT INTENTION to make sure people don’t say “they made all that up” they will still say, “They made all that up.” If you keep going to Twatter for information, you’re basically a idiot at this point and deserve what’s coming for being so misinformed. That goes the same if you use Grok for anything. Let elon run all that into the ground and let it die already. My point is, bad press is good press.

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      Wait, liars are gonna lie to you, even when you tell them you’re annoyed by them lying?

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    Just wanted to say that I talked to my grandma about it, she was working together with the Jews in Auschwitz (my family is from the neighbor village) in a company which made chemicals (IG Farben). When she walked home she could always smell the burned human bodies. She said everyone knew what was going on there.

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      This is backed by evidence.

      After WW2 there was a lot of research about weather people knew or didn’t. Basically the conclusion was: people knew. They actively decided to either ignore it („not my department“), deny it („it’s all lies, the scent is just $foo burning“) or justify it („they deserved it“).

      But people knew.

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      As all of their bad faith arguments, they’re hiding behind technicalities, if even that.

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      Same concept as how Trump gave no written order for the Jan 6 mob to storm the capitol building, therefore he’s totally not responsible for it.

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      Also, you don’t write down orders in a criminal conspiracy. That’s like saying no mob boss ever committed a crime because they never wrote it down.

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      I’m not even gonna consider their argument worthy of contradiction because it’s just false. There are numerous written orders, film archives proving the intentionality of Nazi in systemically murdering the Jews, it should be impossible to say that and be taken seriously.

      Sorry if I sound weird, it’s just that the subject is really important to me

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      It’s this neat thing called lying

      There’s no Holocaust order because that’s not what they called it and that’s not how things work, but they had plenty of work orders and ‘final solution’ progress reports

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      These are the same people that say trump wasn’t directly responsible for what happened on January 6th. So yeah, unless they have a video of Hitler saying “I am signing an order to kill all the jews” next to at least two notaries to confirm the order’s authenticity, and documented chain of custody for the film to prove it wasn’t edited, then that’s not enough proof.

      Ah hell, I reminded myself of this halfway through writing https://youtu.be/sHQljMOQdJ4

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      Conspiracy theories exist in a limbo where contradictory evidence always supports the theory, unless, of course, it’s fabricated to hide the truth of the conspiracy. It’s your own personal motte-and-bailey.

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    I didn’t get it yet. I think they’re gonna make it insidious: for most people it will be correct and they will progressively inject confirmation bias when people use it to judge something (e.g @Grok is this true?)

    I think the first step towards destroying the Holocaust memory and all the work of historians +survivors is going to consist in presenting conflicting realities, creating confusion and doubt.

    edit: btw, for now Grok is okay because he reframed my denialism of a simple “conflict” into genocide

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      I think there’s a reason they hid the prompt in the screenshot of OP.

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        Even if it was real, it was probably made with ultra complex jailbreak prompt. Either way its fake

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    Saw that Onion Person doesn’t have the tweet up.

    Asked grok about it and got a pretty standard answer that you’d expect from a chatbot. I even asked about each point in particular and the answers were good and detailed. Either Onion Person hastily shared a lie (then caught it quickly and deleted it), or grok got patched again. Given the lack of outrage posting that would confirm the latter, I’m going with the former.

    Tl;dr nothing to see here, folks.

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    Does it have sources to back up its’ claims?

    Edit: not a nazi sympathizer or anything, just an honest question about historical sources

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    What was the initial prompt?

    Edit: Well I guess, we’re not getting the prompt because then somone could verify truthfulness of the post

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    gas chambers were just cleansing facilities

    And

    the crematoria lacked capacity for the dead

    These statements seem to be in a logical battle. Camps weren’t meant to kill but they had too many dead.

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    Obligatory @grok is this bad?

    Ah. AI in thd control of the few is such a mess. The most powerful server known so far.

    Wasted for this shit. Actually I think unregulated AI will be our own cultural downfall.