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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33228379
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I spent time in Chengdu in 2011. It was stunning how bad the pollution was. Like, thick sepia haze obscuring skyscrapers just a quarter mile or so down the road. I wonder if it’s cleaner now.
North America can’t public transit, it’s by design
It’s impressive what you can accomplish when the people who oppose it/are in the way don’t matter in the slightest to the people in charge.
I’d love to see this level of expansion anywhere in the US, done properly and without targeting minorities and the poor like we do too often…
If I could ride a metro line to work and to the store, I’d be soooooo happy. No more daily driver for me! Except my bikes, of course. I’d be saving all that money for more bicycles.
You just gave proof that the people who are in the way don’t matter in the US either, as long as it’s about building inner city highways.
The difference between China and the US is, that the Chinese government does what they deem is necessary and logical, ignoring the people while the US does what the deem is profitable and lucrative ignoring the people.
You just gave proof that the people who are in the way don’t matter in the US either, as long as it’s about building inner city highways.
I don’t know where I managed to say anything to the contrary… As you point out, I literally give proof that people in the way don’t matter.
This is just a meme, it has very little informational value and it’s misleading on several levels. (
OPsomebody has been posting it a lot these past days; have a look there for more explanation).The implication that things are better in China is… mostly wrong and pointlessly political. I’m restraining myself here.
If you want to criticize Toronto Public transport do it with facts, not this BS.
Public transit is in fact better in China. In fact public transit in China is considered some of the best in the world at this point. Pointing out a particular ways in which a communist country is better than most capitalist countries is informationally valuable, and vice versa. That’s called a nuanced understanding of the differences.
You asserting things can’t be better in China is pointlessly political. Some things are better in China, some things are worse.
Westerners are so propagandized they’ll literally argue with a map.
As a Torontonian since 2005, I approve of this meme. We have so consistently and “democratically” shat the bed on transit over the last 20 years that today we live with depressing and job limiting commute times. This is very much a quality of life issue that affects most who live here. 25km commute often takes 1-1.5h in a single direction. Thousands if not millions of people here spend 2-3 hours of every work day commuting.
If you see this as an image intented to criticise Toronto i can see your point. But it is also be considered an image showing development in China. Building a system like this is impressive. But i agree for that purpose you could leave Toronto out.
I accept that what is being presented is factual. Do you not? I don’t think that is the criticism here.
It can be both factual and misleading. The misleading part is the kicker here.
You reckon people would be as willing to defend Toronto’s dog shit public transit network if it was compared to a western city rather than a Chinese one?
Clearly not lmao
This is how you perform sophistry with facts.
Oh yes. So much wrong with this meme, which has been posted already. Most of all, why even compare to **** if you want to criticize the TTC. But there seems to always be a decent base of tankies on lemmyverse.
