• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    18 days ago

    Both are necessary, is the issue. The normies aren’t politically active enough to reliably push a majority of the vote, and the fringe is (by definition) not large enough to do it itself.

    You end up with 45% normies and 5.1% fringes, and losing even a little sliver of either means you lose.

    Politics in this country is fucked.

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      18 days ago

      But the fringes are fickle, that’s what I’m saying, if they are decisive, they will disappoint you. There is a long list of demands that you’ll never be able to meet or if you do, you’re potentially going to anger the right-wing of your voters and lose more than you get.

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        18 days ago

        Yep. But then the fringes are always decisive, and there’s no way around that - so every election we end up playing a game of “Holy fucking shit are we going to get screwed again??” and, as Kamala demonstrated in attempting to appeal to a greater volume of normies with her “Country over party” schtick, there’s not really a lot of room for replacing the fringe with normies. The normies are mostly already decided or tuned-out, and trying to pump their votes up gives diminishing returns for the effort at this point - at the expense of the fringes.

        Shit’s fucked. To unfuck it, we have to address the root causes. But addressing the root causes is hard, unglamorous, and time-consuming, while people - normies and fringe alike - want solutions NOW, so instead nothing is fucking done.