• passepartout@feddit.org
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    BioShock 1: GOAT

    BioShock 2: also good

    BioShock infinite: great visuals and gameplay, story was meh

    We can extrapolate this further to:

    BioShock 4: literally don’t care.

    What I care about though is Judas, the new game by former BioShock lead developer Ken Levine.

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      Funny, i feel the opposite of Infinite: amazing visuals and story, gameplay was meh. Its gunplay just wasn’t as good as Bioshock 1, but i love the world and Elizabeth’s story.

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      Have you played the remasters? Are they any good? I got about 40% of the way through 1 and ran out of time. Wondering if it’s worth restarting on the original or the new.

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        I have played the remasters of 1 and 2. I believe they are very close to the base game but a little more optimized / polished graphically speaking. So I’d say go for it. 40% is not nothing, but I played the first game 2 or 3 times until now anyway.

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      I agree 1 was GOAT. They nailed weaving the story line in a way that made a railroaded story feel natural. 2 might as well have been a rails shooter, part of the story was literally on a railroad. If that was satire by devs and writers being coerced then bravo, otherwise it was weak. Infinite bright back a lot of what made 1 awesome, mesmerizing even, but the extreme patriotism thing got old real quick. The dimensional jumping storyline was on the cusp of greatness, but would have needed a few more DLC style side adventures to better tell it from other POVs.

      4 is too late and implies more that they have no idea what else to do so back to this well and hope it’s not still dry.

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      I’ll play Infinite for the first time this year (maybe… it keeps getting pushed back in my backlog) and I am so curious about it. Some people say it’s one of the best games of all time and some that it’s overrated and meh.

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        Some people say it’s one of the best games of all time and some that it’s overrated and meh.

        Hah, it’s in between.

        It had a lot of nostalgia glasses haters, a lot of “GOTY!” industry marketing, and a few launch performance issues IIRC. But it’s a good game.

        Won’t get more specific than that, other than just play it!

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        I played it earlier this year after having played the first 2 only (and that was 10-15 years ago). Infinite is a good game, graphics hold up beautifully. I wouldn’t say it’s one of the greatest of all time but it was a very good game regardless.

        Probably there was a hype cycle at the time of its release that I wasn’t aware of, as that’s the only way I see it as being regarded as meh.

        Honestly it’s just more Bioshock, but set in the clouds rather than underwater, I liked the change of style.

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          I love infinite but my problem with the game is that Booker (the main character/you) is really annoying IMO. I just want him to shut up and be a silent main character rather than some COD protagonist knockoff

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        All three games are master pieces in my opinion. 3 is just different from the previous two, so people dont like that. I say play them all and appreciate them for what they are.

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        BioShock infinite was ok experince on linux, I have completed it twice. (The native binary runs via its own internal translation scheme, so I suggest running via dxvk/proton instead for more speed.) I would say however that it’ll be a lot more hollow and straight forward “pipe run” than its predecessors. I own bioshock 2, but it’s dead, obsolete M$hit only version that i haven’t played since it eated my save files three times.

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          Same experience for me with infinite, forcing proton results in a better performance than using the native Linux build.

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      1 was advertised as a spiritual successor of System Shock 2, but it only got the atmosphere right. It was just another shooter which disappointed me. 2 was the same more or less. 3 had a fascinating story, but it was still just a shooter. Maybe 4th time will become what I crave for, another immersive sim!

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    Beyond this, the performance of 2k over the past 10+ years also does not fill me with confidence. At this point, their games are for the high seas.

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    Hmmm “leadership shakeup” is definitely a canary in the coal mine that this game is not gonna be good, regardless of the changes. They just need to shelve it and come back in a couple years with a team that actually wants to make the game.

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    I only recognise Bioshock games with an Irrational Games splash screen. This will be the Thief 4 of the Bioshock series.

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    To put this in comparison, a good half of the entire gaming industry was hyped as shit for Bioshock 2. Game developers have lost every bit of fan faith in their products.

    You know when being told “there’s a new one”, that it’s probably terrible by default.

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    Bioshock 1 was an actual shock. 2, never finished it. Infinite, differently themed shooter with some twists that already had it reaching out to alternative universes but wasn’t so much of a “bio shock”.

    Alternate universes is the modern version of jumping the shark. Starfield did it on its first go, and look at how that ended. Look at Marvel.

    Can’t understand why Bioshock got that much attention and System Shock sort of got ditched for other companies to remaster. Now do SoulShock.

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      Can’t understand why […] System Shock sort of got ditched for other companies to remaster.

      IIRC Ken Levine wanted to make another System Shock game but Irrational couldn’t get the rights.