Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
I think the crux of your issue is viewing it from exclusively the Christian world view where everyone goes to heaven anyways because Jesus died for our sins. The Palestinians world view is that suffering being done to someone will be rewarded in the afterlife. And the person causing the suffering will be punished.
I never said omnipotence required doing something. You asked how God would know what would happen, and the answer is that God is omnipotent.
Besides, the Old testament, which all 3 abrahamic religions share, is full of stories of God directly interfering in the free will of man. If their God does exist, he is fully capable of stopping what’s happening.
By not interfering, he’s cool with babies being starved to death, and therefore a cunt.
But it’s all a moot point because God doesn’t exist and religion is just a tool for power and control.
Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
Yes, and we are all agreeing they are fuckers because of it. Why it is a problem to consider omnipotent god fucker because of the same logic?
Yes. The same god that tells the Jewish people that they are the chosen ones, and Israel is their promised land. The idea of that god, specifically, directly was the impetus for the death of every Palestinian that has been killed so far in their genocide.
It’s ethnosupremacy that’s killing Palestinians not religion. Zionism was made by an atheist, not calling out Zionism for what it actually is lead us to this problem in the first place. The victims say it’s a racist ideology and the oppressors can genuinely get fucked.
Zionism has secular roots, but it has definitely been picked up by- and is currently used primarily by religious extremists. To say Zionism is atheistic is inaccurate at best.
Oh I know, I’m not saying it’s a religious or secular ideology inherently. Just that it will change itself to fit the group that’s carrying out the genocides.
If it’s religious zealots then it will be religious, if it’s secularists then it will be secular.
That’s just simply not true, not only most of jewish zionists claim to be religious and uses religious arguments for zionism but also the bulk of christian zionists are evangelical fanatics.
Zionism is flexible, it started out secular but it changed over time to better cater to the audience (religious Zionism).
These aren’t inherently contradicting because the central theme of zionism is and will always be ethnonationalism + fascism. As long as those aspects remain, zionism can be whatever it needs to be to cater to its audience.
Agree, i never said zionism is caused solely by religion, i just think that classifying zionist as “atheist” movement is simply not true when it have such significant religious following and motivations. Also “secular” is much better word than “atheist” here.
Judaism as a religion believes that they will be led to the promised land by the return of their messiah. Zionists decided to cut that part out, defy their scripture and do the return part by themselves. Zionism sees Jews as purely a race.
Zionism at its very essence is completely Atheistic. Its father Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.
Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. Most of its leaders and activists ceased believing in redemption through the coming of the Messiah, the long-standing essence of Jewish belief, and took their fate into their own hands. The power of the human subject replaced the power of the omnipotent God.
The rabbis knew that, and were terrified – and, therefore, almost all of them became avowed anti-Zionists. From Hasidic rebbes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn, the Admor of Lubavitch (Chabad) and Yehudah Aryeh Leib Alter (the Admor of Gur) to leading U.S. Reform Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the Reform Central Conference, mitnagdim and Hasidim, Orthodox, Reform and Conservative, all saw the rise of Zionism as the end of Judaism. Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.
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Who bombed Anas Al Sharif? God?
Since God knows everything that’s going to happen, kinda.
Can actively stop it too. Just malicious negligence atp
You know the IDF is murdering kids too. Does that mean you are responsible for them doing so?
Why would I be responsible? I’m not God. It’s not within my power to stop them, unlike God.
Why would God be responsible for knowing what will happen? The human ultimately chooses whether or not to do the thing.
For example if God can go forward in time and see something happening then he could go back in time and not make the thing happen.
But that would would contradict the whole principle of giving humans autonomy to let things happen.
Unless you’re talking natural disasters the entire responsibility here lies on the ones perpetrating the actions rather than God.
Because God is omnipotent.
Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
I think the crux of your issue is viewing it from exclusively the Christian world view where everyone goes to heaven anyways because Jesus died for our sins. The Palestinians world view is that suffering being done to someone will be rewarded in the afterlife. And the person causing the suffering will be punished.
I never said omnipotence required doing something. You asked how God would know what would happen, and the answer is that God is omnipotent.
Besides, the Old testament, which all 3 abrahamic religions share, is full of stories of God directly interfering in the free will of man. If their God does exist, he is fully capable of stopping what’s happening.
By not interfering, he’s cool with babies being starved to death, and therefore a cunt.
But it’s all a moot point because God doesn’t exist and religion is just a tool for power and control.
Yes, and we are all agreeing they are fuckers because of it. Why it is a problem to consider omnipotent god fucker because of the same logic?
Yes. The same god that tells the Jewish people that they are the chosen ones, and Israel is their promised land. The idea of that god, specifically, directly was the impetus for the death of every Palestinian that has been killed so far in their genocide.
It’s ethnosupremacy that’s killing Palestinians not religion. Zionism was made by an atheist, not calling out Zionism for what it actually is lead us to this problem in the first place. The victims say it’s a racist ideology and the oppressors can genuinely get fucked.
But yeah ur right, God is a myth
Zionism has secular roots, but it has definitely been picked up by- and is currently used primarily by religious extremists. To say Zionism is atheistic is inaccurate at best.
Oh I know, I’m not saying it’s a religious or secular ideology inherently. Just that it will change itself to fit the group that’s carrying out the genocides.
If it’s religious zealots then it will be religious, if it’s secularists then it will be secular.
Fair enough.
Zionism is a hardcore Atheistic ideology.
That’s just simply not true, not only most of jewish zionists claim to be religious and uses religious arguments for zionism but also the bulk of christian zionists are evangelical fanatics.
Zionism is flexible, it started out secular but it changed over time to better cater to the audience (religious Zionism).
These aren’t inherently contradicting because the central theme of zionism is and will always be ethnonationalism + fascism. As long as those aspects remain, zionism can be whatever it needs to be to cater to its audience.
Agree, i never said zionism is caused solely by religion, i just think that classifying zionist as “atheist” movement is simply not true when it have such significant religious following and motivations. Also “secular” is much better word than “atheist” here.
Yeah, calling it atheist was genuinely stupid.
Judaism as a religion believes that they will be led to the promised land by the return of their messiah. Zionists decided to cut that part out, defy their scripture and do the return part by themselves. Zionism sees Jews as purely a race.
Zionism at its very essence is completely Atheistic. Its father Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.
So you tell judaists they are atheists because they do not fit in your definition of judaism? Are you even judaist?
Knowing things does not require adhering to them. Also I forgot to link the article with my previous post here it is
https://archive.is/dptFy#selection-1085.0-1103.592
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“It’s god’s fault that I’m killing children, why would god do this?”