• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I’ve recently changed my mind about what I want done with my remains after death. I had wanted cremation because I think it’s selfish to take up land after death. But I’ve had a better idea that won’t pollute the air:

    I want to be dropped in the ocean, far enough out that I won’t wash up on land. I want to sink to the bottom and fuel life for all the strange scavenger critters that dwell on the ocean floor. Other than the fuel for the boat, this is as close to 100%-efficient recycling as I can imagine.

    I haven’t looked into how one would make arrangements for this to happen without putting the people dumping me in the water at risk of being charged with a crime (desecration of a corpse, illegal dumping, whatever). If I live long enough, I’ll get around to researching whether I can make this happen.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      When you cremate your remains and then seed the ocean with your ashes, it feeds the bottom of the ecosystem.

      CORRECTION Cremated remains have all organic compounds broken down and is a process used to stow or preserve remains (since it’s mostly carbon, it can be used to make an artificial diamond). Also someone I know who planned on this as his return to earth funerary choice was misinformed.

      That said, there is a tradition to carve a cadaver up and grind the bones and make sausages for the local wildlife, who will happily partake. In fact part of the ritual is noisy and consistent so as to inform the locals that dinnertime is coming.

      Just drop the body into the wilds and the local fauna (mostly invertebrates) will do a fantastic job of utilizing your remains, and reintroducing the material back into the ecosystem. Avoid permafrost places like the Himalayas, seas that are lifeless (like the Dead Sea). Deserts will just desiccate you quickly.

      Planting your body under a sapling (without formaldehyde or any other preservatives) will make sure you’re literally worm food.

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      Aquamation is, as far as I know, the most sustainable way to have your remains disposed of, and even reused. You may want to look into that!

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        Sounds like it still uses energy to dispose of the body. I appreciate the recommendation. I still expect ocean-dumping to be more energy efficient. Especially if the people depositing my body use a sailboat. I only did a cursory search, so I’m happy to be corrected if I’m getting that wrong.

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          It does, but a significantly lower amount than most alternatives (besides burial and similar full body disposals of course).

          But indeed burial at sea is even less impactful!

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    When I vacationed in france, I got to my hostel and realized it was next to train tracks, and I thought “im fucked”. Then a train wizzed by at like a 100 mph compleetlly silently and I realized it was lucky I was so close to public transit!

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      Not to mention that the brain is really good at tuning out frequent noises. I lived next to a busy highway for years, and it only took about a week before I didn’t hear the semis flying past.

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        I wish this worked on foxes at night, but it doesn’t seem to. Foxes at night make noises like a baby being stabbed repeatedly, and it’s pretty disturbing. When I first moved to my current house and heard this, I had no fucking idea what it was and it freaked the shit out of me. It still grabs my attention whenever they’re around, which fortunately isn’t every night.

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        This was about 15 yeara ago. It was the type that made several stops in each small town. The rails looked like normal metal tracks. it could brake, accelerate, and roll by silently.
        The building I was in was 30 meters from the tracks and I could not hear the train at all, which was insane to me because the trains sometimes screech so loud the passengers cant talk to eachother in america…

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          I was visiting Amsterdam one time and walking across Waterlooplein to my favorite “coffee” shop. Some kind of spidey-sense tingle hit me and I stopped and looked back over my shoulder … to see a tram whizzing past me about an inch from my head, completely silently. I had never noticed the tracks there before. That might be the closest I’ve ever come to death, and the shitty part is that it would have been before I got to the coffee shop.

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    Cemeteries are a giant waste of perfectly good land. And the land right around train tracks can’t really be used for anything. Sounds like a match made in heaven.

    They should make some law that says cemeteries can only be made near active train tracks.

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      It’s my opinion that we should be making cemeteries parks. I know I personally would be much happier if, when I die, and if I were to have a grave, that the space would be useful. Also, the “headstone” could instead be park equipment, like a bench or swings or something. Maybe some space could be set for gardens, and you can choose to be buried there. I don’t understand cemeteries that are made solely for bodies to be thrown in and mostly not useful to society.

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        I think the one good thing trump has done in his entire life is to bury his ex-wife on his golf course. Golf is already a phenomenal waste of land, might as well bury people there too.

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        Cemeteries act like parks in that they drastically improve the cooling of cities. Plus they act like a small wildlife resort for some animals (like birds and squirrels) because there is much reduced foot traffic compared to parks, usually more trees and less noise.

        Besides, cemeteries are useful for society because they allow family members to grief and remember which I’m fairly certain is beneficial for mental health.

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          For the grieving thing, they really don’t need that much land to do it. I think the other commenter is generally correct, though.

          When it comes to the wildlife thing, it’s all just low-height grass monocultures and maybe a few trees if you’re lucky. That’s not really doing the animals any favours, they need taller grasses and bushes to hide in, and more tree density than a cemetary allows for. A dense urban forest with a footpath would be far better. An example of this is Montréal’s Parc Angrignon, if you want to check that out.

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            True, a densely forested park is better than a cemetery. In my experience, most parks are not this type though and many cemeteries - especially those more than a century old - have more trees.

            I mean, take a look at e.g. Greenwich Park in London. That’s nearly a golf course!

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              Sounds like we just need to make better parks, then, no? Like, we’re already asking for change so why not just have that be part of it?

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        My personal idea is human composting combined with tree planting (if that material is suitable for it).

        Each tree planted for the deceased, growing (partially) from their remains. Should be good enough of a memory for the bereaved, and you’ll get people taking care of the planted trees, instead of some stones.

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        Hot take: end all burials, mandatory organ donation. No their religious or cultural reason does not matter more than anyone’s life.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    Carbrain doesn’t live close enough to actually argue NIMBY.

    Anything to oppose government spending money on Good Things.