High heels were originally created for horse riding because they would help you keep a good grip on the stirrups.
Being afraid of looking gay is pretty fucking gay.
Whenever I hear a homophobe in real life start talking about gays, I usually just say “Since I’m not gay, I don’t mentally think about what other men do in bed or with their dicks, but you do you”. Sounds better in my language, I’m sure you can make it sound more punchy
I’m 99% certain that homophobia stems from dudes being gay/bi but brought up in a “conservative” environment, so there’s a clash between what they secretly want and what they perceive as wrong.
“You sure talk about men a lot…”
I didn’t say anything about your sexuality, I’m just wondering if you have any other hobbies besides thinking about men.
Being attracted to women because they are soft and feminine is pretty fucking gay, too
Second row should be Insecure men today.
Yep. Pathetic worthless dumbfucks. Normal men do not even think about such things.
Meanwhile, me, as straight as a die, is seriously considering getting a “The Gays Can Do Whatever They Want” t-shirt from the Jimquisition store, because that’s a great slogan.
Edit: Went to actually buy one, and the postage was more expensive than the shirt. For a t-shirt?! Fuck off!
Lemmy guess, part of the delivery cost was tariffs?
This was from America to Australia, so unlikely.
Some men don’t wash their asses because they think it’s gay.
They don’t wash their asses and think that is not a problem.
Homophobia is literally disgusting.
I just can’t even imagine having such a fragile ego and being so unconfident in my own sexuality, that I would be worried about people thinking I’m gay for using reusable bags.
Jesus Christ. These are the people who are making everything on this planet worse for the rest of us.
Inasmuch as these people have a “fragile ego”, you probably also have a fragile ego. Virtually everyone subconsciously adapts their behaviour to gain the approval of other people whom they value.
The difference between you and them is not that you have a strong ego and are confident in your masculinity, it’s that you don’t value the views of people who judge people on that basis. And that is certainly no bad thing, but it’s a fundamental difference, and making this error makes it very hard to understand people who are different from you.
I don’t have a “strong ego,” I strive to have no ego. Not easy, obviously, but I feel as if I do an alright job.
How am I making it harder for myself to understand them? I know they’re bigoted, I thought that was a given.
At best you can call people who do this as having a very mild form of unconscious bias; you can’t infer bigotry which I would say really ought to be either a consciously-held opinion, or if not then a set of behaviours that has a practical negative outcome.
I think the kind of person you’re thinking of is a stereotypical bigoted jock who hangs out with his jock-friends and makes homophobic jokes all the time. That person we’re maybe not surprised that they are motivated to avoid doing stuff associated with those outside their gender.
But I don’t think (and there’s nothing here to suggest) that it is only that kind of person who is so affected. Do you think that someone respectful of gay people, but who grew up in a conservative family and whose father makes comments like that, might not be motivated along the same lines out of a desire to their father? Or is it bigoted to seek the approval of your dad if your dad is a bigot? Even if it’s not done consciously?
I feel as if I do an alright job.
idk sounds pretty egotistical to me
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME
I don’t because I hate everyone and actively avoid human interaction to the point of sabotage. Misanthrope is the only way to be straight. Or I guess pan in my case.
Oh 100%. I’m doing my part by using this giant Ikea bag I have. Big pride bag. Able to carry an ENORMOUS amount of stuff while being a giant rainbow across the whole thing. Me and my former best friend went to Ikea and bought one when she got a Blahaj and I got a Blavingaad and whatever the Octopus is called. I lovingly refer to the bag as my Baggot. The Whale is called ‘Gay Perry’ and the octopus is ‘Ficus’. I love me some Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Men we’ve been scammed, go to the store and look at the completely bland men’s clothing options and then go to the women’s section and look at all the fun they have with all the different colors and styles, it’s really a tragedy.
Dont get me started on drinks! :)
Bleh. All those colorful drinks are so loaded with sugars. They look like fun, but get ready for a gnarly hangover. Stick with gin and sodas!
Gin and soda is pretty gay though… IDK
Best cure for a hangover is drinking responsibly. Good drinks do make it hard though.
I’ll take the girly drinks and keep wearing my black shirts, thanks
Okay but consider this black leather jacket to go with, or some accessories so you don’t get mistaken for a tech bro. Maybe a mixed fabric panel to show that region you’ve been working out? Vest or unbuttonable portion?
Or pants of some sort to go with it? Maybe?
I’m not straight, I dont even like you people, but for fuck’s sake learn to dress yourselves so I dont need to console my (often hot) straight friends or hear their absolutely heartbreaking ‘he used conditioner and owns two pairs of jeans in different styles!’ Exclamations of joy.
No thanks, I’ll keep buying bulk black t-shirts and optionally MAYBE wear a hoodie and switch from shorts to jeans when it’s cold out.
You are why straight girls are all tragic figures.
Cost efficient, though.
I’m hoping whoever I one day end up with, actually likes my personality not my things or style. To that end, I also now drive an old beater.
But the clothes are more about efficiency, yes. I have 20 pairs of the same socks too so I don’t have to look for pairs.
Style is a display and telegraphing of your personality.¹
Also, unless you’re ace, you probably want her to think you’re hot. You know how you like when a lady knows how to clothes good and dresses up and looks really fucking hot?
She wants something roughly equivalent, but has given up and dismissed it as fantasy.
If you wear something very fancy, it doesn’t just say ‘I am fancy’ it says ‘this is what I think is fancy, and I’m confident enough to wear it around and take the risk’.
Like, you wouldn’t expect the same behavior and relationship from punk leather jacket guy, lumberjack, bard, thinks-hes-a-wizard, business-devil, and the guy wearing a silk button down hentai print shirt with a first-Doctor-scarf aviator goggles mirror shined shoes but fully donald-ducking it. Would you?
Oh yeah, what the hell, who doesn’t like delicious fruit drinks that get you super wasted? (Besides sober people of course)
I’m worried I’d become a Girl Drink Drunk
For real man. And it starts so fucking early. My girl can wear a freaking glitter soaked puffy skirt with a flower shirt and something crocheted with beads over it, accompanied with rainbow nail polish to kindergarten, and the boys are wearing… Blue jeans brown shirt. Maaaybe a shark print somewhere. Man, it is so hard to get pretty clothes for little boys. I’ve met some moms who were so fed up they literally learned how to sew and started sewing because everything was so bland for their boys. Buying girl clothes is not really an option either, not only because of the bullying from other kids but also because those clothes are so tight it is crazy. If it were just the patterns… It’s also the tight leggings, tight jeggings, shirts tailored to the waist. So they sew. For now.
And most retailers really offer such incredibly boring clothes I get depression from just trying to find a tshirt for my husband. You have like 5 colors to choose from and 3 cuts per body half.
Where I live, university age kids now often dress in expensive vintage. Thank god. I’ve now seen color and fun on guys. Finally. And there is this teenager in the neighborhood who dresses up in black emo core and tights and skirts and paints his face with fake blood and all. I so often want to go to him and just tell him thank you for sticking to your style amidst the conservative neighborhood.
Yeah kids clothes are somehow even worse, although I had to wear a catholic school uniform so plain was absolutely mandatory lol. But yeah, there’s really a pretty desolate area, sometimes it feels like they aren’t even designing men’s clothes anymore, I mean I know there’s a lot going on in the world of fashion all the time but that doesn’t seem to trickle down at all anymore, or maybe I’m just wildly out of touch which wouldn’t surprise me. There haven’t been any wild new innovations or trends besides dressing down in general. Note I’m not a huge fan of suits either so I’m not complaining about those going, but nothing replaced them really.
Right, if I want anything with a lot of color I pretty much have to order from Asian brands, I used to like Uniqlo for that but they’ve since succumbed to the drab and their options are not so great either anymore.
I always admired the people who stuck with the same style or subculture they identified with since they were teenagers, especially the more physically dramatic ones like goth or punk, they found something they loved and made a choice. I miss my giant phat raver diy stovepipe pants sometimes and now I see they are coming back in style haha, but again mostly for women and only men/boys under 20. There is nothing stopping anyone of course.
Many straight men don’t want to be perceived as gay, while I, a queer man, simply don’t want to be perceived.
I’d have so much fun if I could go invisible at will…
Who said that? Show yourself!
Must have been the wind…
Lol, meanwhile the bisexuals don’t want to be perceived as gay because it’s cutting their dating potential in half. Is that fear, because it’s so self serving, worse or better than the homophobic reason of the straights?
How could you possibly be attracted to both genders? That’s as crazy as wanting to change your gender or not being sexually attracted to anyone at all. You’re clearly just plotting to cheat on me with someone of the opposite sex because you like cheating so much. Nobody would ever be both monogamous AND find people attractive across the gender spectrum.
Your username screams “perceive me!”
It’s to distract you from seeing me over my username. 😌
Then you should get better curtains
Ohhhhh 🤯
One of my coworkers loved to make “i bet so-and-so is gay, look at how he does stuff” joke remarks. I once had the chance to joke back: “Dunno man, you spend a LOT of time thinking about how he’s gay, you’re always paying attention to him, you’re always talking about him, that’s pretty gay of you” - That made him stop with those while I’m around, at least.
I use a reusable bag because I’m not paying an extra 40p every time I go fucking shopping.
How homosexual of you.
That’s the gayest thing I heard in a while. I see you talking but all I can hear are massive throating noises.
I’m so jealous of blackmist.
The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy men of the Western world stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing.
That doesn’t sound great at all.
Masculinity is when you are afraid for how other people perceive you.
Toxic masculinity is that, among many other things.
I think toxic masculinity actually has little to do with actual masculinity. Not disagreeing with you here, more like elaborating.
That’s the opposite of it.
Is this what alpha feels like? Are we all feeling alpha yet?
Straight men then: No matter what I do, I still hate the idea of sucking another man’s dick!
Straight men now: If I clean my ass too much I may want to suck another man’s dick.
Men are not afraid of being perceived as gay. Only insecure weirdos that need therapy are afraid of that.
I’ve met a handful of straight men who were not afraid to be perceived as gay and humorously played along. They were usually the coolest guys in the room. Hell, the confidence alone made them more attractive, but I don’t go there.
I’m a queer enby and I do the little circle below the waist gesture, with my hand, to get my friend’s (my infinitely heteronormative friend) attention and then tell him because he looked he’s gay now. This is something the cis-boys in highschool used to joke around about because being gay was THE WORST thing you could be perceived as. I think it’s harmless with my friend though he does get flustered that he’s not gay and it’s kinda cute.
You must be young still. I don’t deny that - as you say - in school being perceived as gay was kind of bad / an insult, but that was us growing up in an atmosphere of toxic masculinity. I have matured beyond that and would laugh at such a prank.
Oh I just started my 30s I never did it as a teen personally, just witnessed others do it in toxic masculine form and now I my adulthood find it funny to emulate it towards someone who might have done it seriously in their teens for the laughs.
There’s nuances to everything. My oldest “heteronormative” friend and I sometimes call each other honey and blow a kiss into the air, without being serious about it nor meaning it to mock people.
I’m a straight man that went to a gay bar with a bunch of lesbian friends and got hit on by a very feminine gay man. He like the way I dressed and how well I was put together.
It was such a confidence boost and made me very happy.
The only reason for a man to be so concerned about another man’s sexuality, is they want to be a part of it.
Yep, which is why homophobes talk about (man on man) anal sex waaaaay more than gay men.
waaaaay more than out gay men.
ftfy
Exactly
