This is a genuine question. I’ve always had an interest in learning languages and I have a list I want to learn. I am already somewhat decent in Spanish, so I’m picking up that, practicing my Portuguese, going to learn French and Italian, maybe German, learning Polish, and possibly Russian.
I already canceled the idea of living in Russia due to obvious reasons, but will I have any need to learn the language? Will it be useful? Will that be offensive? Many people HATE Russia and the language.
It is never a bad idea to know the language of your enemy.
Which reminds me: I heard of a story about a Chinese American helping South Korea’s side during the Korean war and like yelling “别开枪，自己人” (“don’t shoot, friendly”) in Mandarin and confusing the PLA, it was such an intriguing story.
Of course, if you look up that story in Baidu search, dude’s branded as a race traitor.
how to ask for mercy in Russian
Sorry, am of lazy. Prefer shootings Ruski over learning his gibberish.
It’s never a bad idea to learn another language.
It’s never a bad idea to learn. period…full stop.
The act of learning anything wires our brains in a thousand different ways; increases our critical thinking skills. Increases our verbosity and our ability to communicate our own ideas more effectively. It increases problem solving skills, etc…
The very act of learning is something that should be practiced every day with something, whether that’s a new language, or a hobby, or being a history buff…it doesn’t matter. What matters is the learning itself.
So if Russian is what is giving you that interest right now, do it. At the very least, chicks dig polyglots.
While it’s true a language is tightly linked to the culture of its speakers by definition, a language’s speakers aren’t just their leaders. Russian represents centuries of cultural wealth, not just the misadventures of the last hundred or so years. It’s not the language’s fault that Putin invaded Ukraine. If you love learning languages for their own sake, do it. I made the same choice when attempting to learn Mandarin during the Hong Kong protests.
Learning Mandarin is very useful to say:
Guāngfú Xiānggâng, Shídaì Gémìng (Free Hongkong, Revolution of our times!)
xD
Attempted is the key word. The characters eventually got too detailed for me to distinguish. As I mentioned in another thread I tried finding braille resources for L2 learners but there don’t seem to be any. Ironically if everything was in Pinyin I could probably do it, but moving to a new writing system when you already have one that you’ve used for millennia is a nearly impossible ask. Plenty of people have tried with English.
I agree with the person who said it’s not a bad idea to learn the language of your enemy. And Russian culture is fascinating and worthy of study, even if the country is currently being run by a fascist dictator bent on world domination, at the expense and destruction of his own people. But then, that has been a trend in Russian history.
If this bothers you enough to ask about it, have you considered learning Ukrainian instead? You’ll get many of the benefits of learning Russian, and my understanding is that the two languages are mutually intelligible with some difficulty despite the differences.
As a Russian myself, it depends.
Do you want to explore classic Russian literature without translation losses? Explore the cultural ties of Russians and how language and culture affects history and politics? Figure out what Russian politicians are saying? Hang out with Russians somewhere? Are a proud pirate looking for Russian resources? Finally figure out how to write the word “лишишься” in cursive?
If at least one answer is “yes”, go ahead! It’s not easy, but quite rewarding. If you just want to dip your toes a little, however, and feel like you grasp something, there are better options.
Writing in cursive is easy, just write a bunch of “u” next to each other and you’re bound to write one of the characters that look like bunch of “u”.
True lol
But figuring out just how much “u” you need to write, or how many are there, is a bit tedious without the language experience.
True, but there’s a high chance you’ll accidentally write something that’s correct than in latin script. When I was learning Russian in high school I spent more time than I should trying to come up with a word that has the most “u” shapes. Sadly I don’t remember what I settled on, but it was quite a bit long.
The classic ones are “шиншилла” and “лишишься”, although the latter could be extended to “лишившийся”. 11 of the same strokes for the latter, if my calcultations are correct.
Ime people hate russia, not it’s people or the language
A lot of people do hate Russians, especially if you ask their neighbors.
I play online games for almost 30 years on european servers, and the amount of russians i met that i would call not assholes are staggeringly low. So i would say they have a people problem. And all the events now going on seem to support that theory.
I wouldn’t call people playing competetive online games a good representational cross section tbh
Find a culture you like and language you think is interesting and learn. No need to make it a chore, turn it into something positive and maybe go visit. You can find someone to talk to in their native language and even better someone who wants to learn yours!
Learning Russian would be handy for when you meet them on counter strike and they start raging at you, but otherwise probably not.
The only solid worst-case reason is to learn “please dont kill me ive got a family” and thats not actually going to get you anywhere so whatever.
Hey, I’m trying to be more proficient in my Russian.
I think that the more letters a language has, the more words it has, and the more ways you have of getting you message across. The Russian language has so much depth to it due to the many ways of saying the same thing. This can be heard through Russian music or read through Russian literature. The more words a language has, the better you can describe what you are feeling. Maybe there is a better language for translating the complexity of our minds into primal/basic words that we have created.
Now, I might me a bit further in my learning that you are, but if anyone is interested
I have just started a Russian Learning Community that I hope to grow in the coming months.
Beginners, intermediate or advanced / fluent speakers of the Russian language
All are welcome! Не стесняйтесь ребята!
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Feel free to join and create discussions and posts.
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Share insights, resources and lessons
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Participate in comments
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Spark conversations by adding questions at the end of your post
We have a rule of trying not to use translators, only dictionaries and being fine with posting a post that is grammatically incorrect and having others point out your current flaws and room for improvement.
It can be found at: RushB@lemmy.zip (pun intended)
Найти нашу группу можно по етой ссылке: RushB@lemmy.zip
or here https://lemmy.zip/c/RushB
When joining, please introduce yourself in the welcoming post
EVERYONE IS WELCOME!
Приглашаю Всех!
It is currently very dry, so consider yourself an OG and use that title when it gets more popular.
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Lots of Ukrainian refugees are native Russian speaker. I wouldn’t overthink things if I were you
30 years ago we had a saying that optimists start to learn Russian now. Pessimists Chinese.
(Sub text for the ones who need explanation: because it’s going to be the language of the next world rulers)
I think the main thing holding me back in my attempts to learn languages is not having anyone to talk to. I’ve tried to learn Spanish, Mandarin, German, French, and Japanese. Never got that far in any of them, but I did best with Spanish and French. The former when I worked with Mexicans who don’t speak much English, and the latter when I vacationed in France and didn’t want to seem like one of those Americans, and studied like crazy ahead of time.
I can’t think of many Russians I’d want to talk to. Maybe if I was in contact with dissidents I’d be able to put in the effort.
I think you’re Russian to conclusions.
Your puns are Putin this community to shame
You guys need to Finnish with these puns.
No way! I’m Hungary for more puns!
You need to Polish your joke a little
Next guy to add a pun joke to this chain…Europe!
Norway we’re gonna stop!
Learning the language is not a political statement, and you’ll outlive Putin. Besides we’re not solving anything by refusing to communicate with each other. If you want to learn Russian, learn Russian. Just be careful not to fall for the propaganda.
