The evidence suppression hearing in the case against accused CEO killer Luigi Mangione concluded Thursday after the defense signaled it would call no witnesses.
The nine-day hearing will determine what evidence will be used against Mangione when he goes on trial on charges of gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a Manhattan sidewalk last year.
The defense has argued the officers violated Mangione’s constitutional rights against illegal search and seizure because they lacked a warrant when they searched his backpack after Mangione was apprehended in a Pennsylvania McDonald’s five days after the shooting.
Verdict ? NOT guilty
because they lacked a warrant when they searched his backpack after Mangione was apprehended in a Pennsylvania McDonald’s
The cops figuratively shoot themselves in the foot, because they’re so used to plea deals they forgot how a lawful investigation is supposed to work.
They claimed there was danger and that’s why they apprehended him and separated him from his bag without Miranda. But forgot that once that happened, they were no longer legally allowed to search the bag without a warrant because there was no imment threat.
Then even after searching the bag, they found nothing.
Until after the bag was at the station and searched again.
The single cop who drove the bag to the station was photographed leaving with no gloves on, testified there was no reason she’d have put gloves on while driving, but was photographed with gloves on while turning the bag in.
It’s going to be insane if anything from the bag is admitted, and since it’s “public knowledge” what was in the bag it’s influenced every potential juror and may be grounds for a mistrial already.
I feel like they’re dragging it out because they know it’s gonna be bad, but that’s not going to help anything, people aren’t just going to stop caring about this.
The orange turd tweeting that he firmly believes Luigi to be guilty AND the DOJ retweeting that should already be a basis for a mistrial, on the argument that with these events, there’s no way to conduct a fair and proper trial anymore as the government itself has influenced judge, jury and public.
Setting aside the legal probability of the matter: it’s my staunch belief that whether or not he actually killed the guy (and I remain categorically unconvinced on that front), Luigi did nothing wrong.
Repeat after me folks “Jury Nullification”. I’m shocked how many people don’t know anything about it. (Not saying you don’t, just venting).
Oh I’m certain Jim Crow knows, given the unfortunate history of the civil rights movement in the US, folks like Sammy Younge Jr were assassinated and their killer would be acquitted by an all white jury.
It’s not that shocking. Prosecutors do not like it when jurors mention it. So if you get pinged for jury duty ever, do not bring that up, ever. But you can and should bring it up in deliberations, assuming the situation is appropriate.
In general, if you want to be on a jury say as little as possible (and vice versa)
This is the OJ trail where they planted the gloves, but this time they planted a gun. So Lugi should be sit free just like OJ. But unlike OJ Lugi is innocent.
Seriously how in the fuck can more than a few weeks be justified?
Major cases moving forward this slowly is not unusual at all. It’s usually to the defendant’s advantage to draw things out.
I’d agree except they are holding him without bail. He’s going to end up doing 2 years in jail before they even get in front of the jury. That’s insane.
Sixth amendment:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial…
Just because it’s routine doesn’t mean we should accept it. The current state of affairs is horrible for defendants (in jeopardy for months or years regardless of outcome, not to mention legal costs) and horrible for the public (justice delayed is justice denied).
Trump’s uncanny ability to stall trials for years is a big part of why he’s not in prison right now.
“not unusual” doesn’t explain it for me though. In this case it sounds like the literal only thing happening in several months is internal thinking for the judge. I admittedly did not read the article, but am I wrong about that?
I could almost understand if it was super complicated, but this case seems pretty straight forward without too many loose threads waving around.
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“Fair and speedy trial” my ass
For anyone confused about how May is even an option, the article sort of explains it.
Sort of.
New York Judge Gregory Carro gave the defense until Jan. 29 to make its final argument about the evidence in writing. Prosecutors have until March 5. The defense then has two weeks after that to submit a reply.
Carro said he expected to issue his decision about what, if any, evidence to exclude on May 18, at which point he would also set a date for trial.
May? It’s December ffs. Why do only Trump and other fascists get fast results when they want them?
Nine day hearing, and now the judge will sit on their ass for five months. Apparently the sixth amendment means nothing now.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial
- Trumps hush money trial ran completed 15 months after it started.
- Georgia election interference 27 months.
There were some quick ones dismissed before trial. I hate Trump but let’s not just say whatever we want as you’re factually incorrect here.
But those were against him, and hobbled by insane bending to accommodate him. No punishment at all for 34 felonies? Not even a cursory probation period? I got probation for my first arrest at 14, for a misdemeanor, along with a huge list of restrictions on my activities. Not to mention, I was arrested, strip and cavity searched, and held in juvenile detention under 24 hour lockdown for 3 days before seeing a judge. He gets no trial at all for stealing government documents and covering it up? When he goes after people now that he’s in power, the judiciary speeds up what he wants and slows down whatever could stop him.
You’re absolutely right here, but your initial comment was talking about timescales and I merely gave some timescales from trumps trials.
Yeah he’s awful and we (world, in UK) have a two tiered justice system.
