• AmyAye@nord.pub
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    7 days ago

    Yes. Also, there is zero, ZERO path to anything better through the Republocan party.

    There are plenty of ways to eventually get somewhere through the Dems. It may mean “suffing” alot of do nothing bull shit, but there are paths and ways.

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      6 days ago

      It’s called reforming a party. And yes, the Dems are much more likely to be reformed and it is the true path forward.

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      As long as people are not apathetic what most likely will happen is that Republican will disappear and Democrats will split into two parties. It happened in the past.

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      The fun part is, that the Republicans didn’t even start out as a Maga cult party. They got infiltrated. Not just by rich people, but by people from all sorts of backgrounds, joining or voting for support. Nothing is stopping the left from doing the same with the Democrats. But for that to happen, they’d need to stop with the constant purity tests…

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        Nothing is stopping the left from doing the same

        Intellectual honesty. The left will say what they actually want, the alt-right will lie their way in. “I’m literally an anarchist” versus “oh I’m just a fiscal conservative”.

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        6 days ago

        The tea party was supposed to be normal “folks” but was really funded by the Koch’s Americans for Prosperity (a proto-superpac).

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        7 days ago

        The MAGA cult is basically onky two groups.

        Fanatic idiots who cling to religious fantacy like its fact because they are too stupid to comprehend the world, this stupidity also fuels a shitload of racism and bigotry, for the same reason.

        And richblibertarian assholes who want to tear the world of regulation down to better allow them to rape the population and planet for maximum profits.

        The rich assholes figured out how to weaponize the idiots using fear to grest advantage. I used to feel a bit sorry for the idiot cult for being manipulated but they basically refused to ever change so fuck those people.

        Actual mainstream Democrats are not doing “purity tests”, a lout, super left wing branch is. I am not saying they have bad wants and desires, and ultimately they are right on a lot of issues, and personally, I agree with them on a lot of issues, but they are loud, and a bit of a fringe part, and for the greater good, for now, can be mostly ignored.

        Mostly.

        They should NOT be ignored in favor of just, sliding more tonthe right. Like, just picking an issue, maybe there is a compromise on trans athletes, because it probably is tricky, but that doea not mean compromising on trans people ompletely, andletting it start to slide to other queer groups, which is starting to happen.

        The big lynchpin that feels like its brought up a lot is the Israel/Palestine war. Which is probably the stupidest one. Yes Israel sucks, and what they are doing to Palestime is very terrible, but hesus fuck you don’t sacrifice the country and ultimately everyone else in the world to the fucking Fascists over it. Both sides are shit, and who fucking cares in the end.

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          Actual mainstream Democrats are not doing “purity tests”, a lout, super left wing branch is.

          Yeah, i’m not talking about democrats as a whole, they’re not “left” from a European perspective, i was talking about those who are quite a bit further left of centre. The people who “taught the Dems a lesson” by *checks notes* hiding at home, writing performative bullshit on social media and are dogpiling on anyone who dares to cast a shadow of a doubt at their imaginary moral high ground. As i had the pleasure of experiencing first hand, when i dared to question the decision of some random US non-voter commenting on Bluesky…

          The point is, that pretty much every party can be changed from the inside, if people are persistent enough. Change never happens on its own. At least not for the better. And if you want to help people in other countries, you first need to make sure your own country stays safe. Sadly, the US is a two-party failed state, and in my opinion, the only realistic peaceful way to change that, is to join the lesser evil of the two parties and force the change from within. The other option is to just burn everything to the ground and start from the beginning.