• PraiseCorn [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        True but Trump in his 10th term is more fitting given he’s president forever, whereas turtle is just a senator whos more akin to Darth sidious before he became emperor cuz Trump is emperor n stufff

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    I am reminded of a friend of mine who bought a Make America Great Again hat and shipped it over to Australia in 2016 because he thought it’d be an obscure funny relic in 10 years like an “I Like Ike” bumper sticker or Bob Dole 1996. A failed political campaign’s slogan from halfway around the world,

    Fast forward 10 years, Trump’s unveiling “Trump 2028” hats (among other things)

  • Piltdowntown [they/them, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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    Do it. Accelerate harder. Two feet on the gas pedal. Another knife into the decaying decrepit heart of the most disgusting genocidal spiritually bankrupt society this planet has ever spawned. China will be there to take over.

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            What slice of America is too stupid to become anti-fascist by this point but will suddenly understand if Trump violates another election norm? Americans are constantly looking for an excuse to not do anything, there being a fascist government is likely going to get “can’t do anything; fascist government – maybe china or canada will save us”.

            The rhetorical advantage OP here thought the left in the USA would get would be completely nullified by the insane censorship that would soon follow. One is not going to be pwning the libs on Bluesky into becoming anti-fascist when elections get cancelled.

            Outside of the US, IDK. Seems like the only way for anyone outside the US to understand how evil it is isn’t by argument or evidence but by the on-going trumpian fascist spectacle playing out. So IDK, maybe countries like Spain, Mexico, France, Ireland, Australia, etc. might finally distance themselves from the US more solidly if Trump 3 happens.

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          You’re right, fascism is an unstable death cult, but she’s also right: the fascist phase of capitalism stabilizes the economy and the whole system. That’s the dialectics of it. Fascism isn’t stable, because it doesn’t solve the crisis tendencies like communism does. But it does have a mid term stabilizing effect by delaying the crisis:

          • A huge amount of value gets destroyed in fascists wars mitigating the crisis of overproduction. (That’s the main stabilizing factor)
          • Patriarchy gets reinforced in reaction to the crisis of reproduction of labor power.
          • Unions are destroyed, labor gets disciplined, burgoise democracy gets dismantled, enabling increased exploitation in reaction to the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. (That’s the main motivation for capitalists. They inevitably turn to fascism, when profits can’t be stabilized within burgoise democracy.)
          • All the crisis raise the consciousness of people, which, in combination with organizing, leads to the looming threat of communism. Fascism kills all communist sympathizers first thing after taking power, effectively neutralizing this threat. That’s stabilizing too.

          After fascism: the value is still destroyed, the economy booms from rebuilding, restrictive labor laws aren’t repealed, fascist officials remain in power, fascist values stay ingrained, communists stay dead.

          Just look at Germany. It all played out after the war. The “economic miracle” during rebuilding. General strikes and political strikes are still illegal, Germans are still incredibly racist, Nazis lived long, happy lives in positions of power, new Nazi parties are being build up by intelligence agencies, communist orgs had to start from zero and they are often illegalized, communists are continuously prosecuted from the party bans after the war to the employment bans in the 70s to the imperialist crack down on free speach now.

          Fascism needs to be fought and stamped out before it comes to power. If it’s already in power (like in the US) it needs to be fought all the more. China won’t save a people who aren’t willing to save themselves.

      • Piltdowntown [they/them, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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        You seem to be under the mistaken idea that I think this would help bring about socialism in America. It won’t. Not only that, I do not want socialism in America. I want America to be destroyed and to lose its spot in the global spotlight and allow AES like China to take it instead. America would turn into a flailing closed off crater while the world moved on without it, slowly forgetting it ever existed. There is no potential for socialism in America, and even if there was, it should still be opposed, as it would be built on the fruits of imperialist conquest, just like the healfmeasure pseudo-“socialism” of the Nordic model. Two centuries of destroying and pillaging the third world for your own gain to then turn around and use those ill gotten gains for the benefit of yourself, just as imperialist first world nations always have, except now they won’t let their own civilians starve, while making sure the third world continues to starve to feed them. It’s the equivalent of allowing an elderly Nazi war criminal to live out his days peacefully in a retirement home using funds looted from the innocent people he killed as opposed to forcibly submitting him to the justice of his victims. We can not waste time trying to save America. We must instead encourage it to harm itself.

          • Piltdowntown [they/them, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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            Other countries have already been distancing themselves from America as it grows more unstable and unreliable. BRICS is allowing a move away from USD. Trump has sabotaged or is sabotaging every military alliance America has by continuing Biden’s Israel dickriding at the expense of all others. Soon no one will stand by it and it will be truly alone and powerless. America will become irrelevant and is already becoming irrelevant. A slow humiliation decline for the most evil society ever built.

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    0/10

    TALK IS CHEEP

    He needs to officially announce and start his run for a third term before the 2026 elections to force a GOP loyalty test that’s as simple as can be. Do republican pols support his third term or not? Then he can “take care of” any of his enemies in the way the GOP justices gave him the power to do in their 2024 immunity ruling. And - bingo - he gets 100% loyality.

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    The viability (in terms of having the power to go through with it or not) of Tump 2028 feels like a crossroads that really elucidates precisely how far-flung we are on the fascism road

    If it has motion, then we’re in deep shit, like ‘pack your suitcase and flee NOW’ levels of deep shit

    If it’s just a larp, then we’re still in the tail end of the neoliberal era

    • BettercallMao [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned
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      Democracy is a scam being used for protecting neoliberalism, rentism and capitalism. It is already fascist.

      Mango is just making this explicit and undeniable even for most hardcore democrats