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Reminder that every time conservatives are given power chaos ensues and everyone’s stress levels (and cost of living) skyrocket.
Every. Fucking. Time.
Republicans always make Democrats sounds way cooler than they really are
They have more faith in the democratic party than I do LMAO
Yeah this is just another lie Trump told
Ha, Democrats can’t even pass higher minimum wage with a house majority. Even when it was Biden’s platform.
Not one standalone bill. They had two years of a majority.
There will be no universal healthcare in the USA until Amazon and Meta decide that we should have universal healthcare.
To be fair, the Democrats had control of Congress during an earlier term too (2009-2011), and in that term they passed the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). When was the last time the Republicans passed anything beneficial at all, let alone as beneficial as the ACA?
They could have passed medicare for all. They didn’t. Their health insurance handlers told them to go with a bipartisan approach, negotiating with Rs and we ended up with the ACA. Which is still health insurance we pay for.
Why are Democrats never as cool as Republicans say they are? Like they controlled the entire government under Obama and the best we got was making it illegal to not have health insurance.
if you know which DNC are elected , you know some of them are actually conservative, but not R enough to be elected as a republican, they just pretend to be a dem to get elected. we dont have a significant number of AOCs, or bernies in congress, its mostly schumerites, and hakeem politically speaking. because the old guard will never agree on AOC and bernies agenda, they would rather get rich by placating GOP and thier donors.
But that’s how single payer systems basically work. It’s illegal to not pay into the system because it’s illegal to not pay your taxes.
No, single payer system means a legal guarentee of public health care.
What they did was make it a punishable offense to not have health care. That is very very different. They aren’t giving a product that are forcing you to buy a product.
mroe than welcome to have a single pay and regulated private insurer, like canada maybe?
Registered car owners are already forced to have an expensive service (car insurance) in most (all?) states
And? That’s still not single payer car insurance.
Also owning & operating a vehicle is a privilege whereas living & receiving medical care, should be, a right.
to be fair car insurance should be required, because cars are potentially very dangerous, and the cost to infrastructure and people is very high if damage was incurred. also certain areas will have even higher rates than surrounding areas due to the demographics that are likely to cause accidents or collisions. thats why its important to invest in public transport more, like HSR, this will totally eliminate the need for cars in many areas.
Except it’s not a single payer health system is it? It’s just giving corporations even more money and therefore power.
The sponsored cans during a speech 🤡
just notice it, its the worst brands too. FOLGERS, honey bunches and oats. remember goya, one of our local chains was carrying it up until the time he started promoting the brand, and hten it disappeared from the store completely since that time, never came back. was replaced by better beans anyways.
FOLGERS
They made their decision with the incest commercial.
The only way you’ll ever give me free health-care is to pry it into my cold, dead hands.
Some people in the USA celebrate relative success instead of absolute one.
“Is your life really better when others suffer?”
Cruelty isn’t condemned in 'Murica
It’s celebrated
Keeping
up withthe Johnses down
There are people, who are afraid, free healthcare will lead to people not taking care of their health. That’s how they tried to astroturf the “pro-paid healthcare” movement in Hungary.
Which is BS of course, expensive healthcare makes people skip on prevention which leads to worse health and more expensive treatments. You just have to look to the US to see that.
I went to a surgery because I was bleeding from my ass. I was told it was covered. When I got here I was told it wasn’t covered. The doctor said it would be. It wasn’t, because the claim codes were in the wrong order. I should have never went into that surgery.
I’ve been on phone calls with the hospital, the insurance company, the doctor, and the hospital billing office (separate from the hospital and unable to communicate with it for some reason) for well over a year.
My insurance company assured me that it would be taken care of. They then closed the case and opened at least one other internal case where they say it’s not being taken care of.
I pay over 10k out of my paycheck to cover my family. That’s before we hit the 4k family deductible and still have to pay 20% on most services.
God bless the United States healthcare system.
I doubt your issue is unique in regards to fighting this crap. This is an issue with the insurance complex, not having it to begin with. Healthcare in USA is atrocious.
12 years ago in Houston, my newborn twins had to be transferred to another hospital. They were moved via ambulance. I received a bill for $11,000 from the ambulance company. My company insurance stated ambulances were covered 100%. I asked why I received this bill and they told me this ambulance was out of network. I asked them which ambulance the hospital was supposed to use and they told me all ambulances in Houston were out of network. My company and my residence was located in Houston.
This whole thing is awful.
The people angry about healthcare being paid for don’t currently have healthcare usually. Especially on the good liars, the look like total fools. Why you wouldn’t want your family to be able to go to a doctor and not go bankrupt is beyond me. Wild timeline. Weird it’s even an issue.
There are people, who are afraid, free healthcare will lead to people not taking care of their health
They are usually the same people that weighs 350 pounds and don’t trust vaccines.
But lecture people that the moment healthcare will be free, no one will be working out, and will be smoking 2354 packs a day.
this is a real thing he said, but it was in 2024
You should warn people that you’re posting a Twitter link before someone accidentally clicks on it. Not every Lemmy instance/app offers link previews.
OP is a new second time, just to be clear.
OP is a new second time, just to be clear.
you sound very confident but you are mistaken. just to be clear: the screenshot in the post shows a still from the same video as the 2024 tweet i linked.
What?
Here’s the part I don’t understand.
In 2025, approximately 22 million Americans received subsidies through the Affordable Care Act Marketplace to help pay for their health insurance. That’s millions of working Americans who depend on these subsidies to afford coverage.
So who exactly is this statement supposed to appeal to? A significant number of Trump’s own constituents rely on healthcare.gov to purchase their health insurance. Without those subsidies, many of them are going to face the same financial reality I would.
Without my subsidy, my health insurance would cost approximately $1,800 a month. That’s $21,600 a year just to have health insurance, before paying a single dollar in deductibles or copays.
That’s absolute insanity.
When Trump uses words like “we” and makes speeches, he is only referring to his donors and henchmen.
We aren’t even a thought for him, not even his cult
Voting against your own interests is a common thing that happens in democracies.
Man… Yeah, you’re absolutely right. That really is a matter of perspective.
I think what I struggle to understand is how people can intentionally vote against their own interests under the guise of familiarity. Have people genuinely been conditioned to believe that things that benefit society as a whole, and them as individuals, are somehow detrimental to them personally, while those same policies are somehow detrimental to the profits of large corporations?
I don’t know, man. It’s difficult to wrap my head around how effectively people can be convinced to work against their own interests.
Humans are terrible.
So who exactly is this statement supposed to appeal to?
Left leaning voters specifically. He knows Democrats won’t be able to bring forth Universal Healthcare in a term or maybe even 2. It’s just to rile leftists and set up Democrats for a failure he knows they won’t be able to commit to.
So he’s conceding that Republicans are going to lose the elections this year and he wants to throw egg into the face of Democrats when they don’t provide universal healthcare?
That’s… No. No man. Leftists have nothing to do with any of this.
It’s something close to 80% of all Americans have their insurance either provided for them through Medicare and Medicaid or the workplace the other 20% is mostly through the healthcare act and the others are paying for themselves or don’t have it at all.
The extreme vast majority of the people that he is referring to already have some form of healthcare assistance nobody is going to buy this.
So who is he saying this to? Who’s supposed to look at this and go oh my God not free healthcare!?
he wants to throw egg into the face of Democrats when they don’t provide universal healthcare?
Yes, absolutely. That’s just the kind of person he has been so far. Ignorant leftists blame Democrats for not backing Universal Healthcare, DJT points out that that’s a possibility if Democrats get majority (which is absolutely is not), it’s a simple ploy is all. DJT throws things at the wall constantly to see what sticks.
Look at it creating a buzz here. Surely it’s making it’s rounds on Reddit, Facebook, and X as well. Unless it’s a narrative that him and his cronies keep pushing, it’ll be done talked about by tomorrow.
If it does end being a narrative they keep pushing, it makes Democrats look weak as it’s not something they can commit to even though it’s something a majority of American would want.
You actually make a very strong case here. You might be right, and I have to admit, it’s just crazy to me that this seemingly senile old man could be capable of such a high level of strategic thinking.
I’ve lived my entire life in this country and lived through the administrations of numerous presidents, but I’ve never seen anything quite like this. This entire administration is operating in ways that feel completely unprecedented in modern American history.
I have never seen the federal government treat immigrants with such abject disdain and discrimination. The racism and sexism are so blatant, so openly displayed, that you would think they’d be enough to turn the American people against this administration. And yet, somehow, those very things seem to energize its supporters rather than alienate them.
I genuinely hope they push things far enough that the American people finally begin to push back in a meaningful way. But then again, we’ve already seen massive protests, and it often feels like they accomplish very little. At some point, you have to wonder what it will take for people to draw a line and demand something better from their government.
when the enhanced subsidies ended thanks to schumer, i think millions had to drop the ACA. plus recently OZ made medicaid only available if you work certain amount of hours a month, including snap.
He’s threatening us with a good time.
Have you considered that evreyone also means… BLACK PEOPLE?
We can give some to the blacks, but what about the immigrants. How dare they get what is only reserved for the chosen few.
You failed to mention… Trans!!!
What about the… trans immigrants
incarcerated trans black immigrants!
I didn’t mean to be DEI Divisive Exclusive or Incompetent. Or did it means something else.
Just to clarify I meant this government as DEI not it’s original meaning, before I am downvoted to hell.
This is from the 2024 campaign. Which he won, bafflingly.
Sure he did, same way Bush won Florida when his brother was in charge of the count.
and the DNC refusing to even investigate they knew what actually happened.
“EVEN THE BROWNS???”
- His fanbase.It really is the “everyone” that annoys people. I’ve asked conservatives to explain to me how insurance works as a business model. They pretty quickly realize two things:
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Monthly premiums of everyone cover the needs of anyone in need today. (Some seem to think it is like a bank account, but pretty quickly realize why that doesn’t make sense. Framing it around car insurance instead of healthcare tends to help if they are struggling here.)
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As a for profit business, they need to collect more in monthly premiums from each customer than they will provide that customer with benefits. Otherwise, the business is not profitable.
Once they understand these two facts, then they are ready to understand why government sponsored healthcare is optimal. It maximizes the number of people paying into the monthly premiums, while minimizing the profit margin because the government doesn’t need to be run at a profit. Many disagree with that last point, but will usually be satisfied by phrasing it as “bringing in a minimal profit. Otherwise, we wouldn’t want to be overtaxed, right?”
Once they understand these two facts, then they are ready to understand why government sponsored healthcare is optimal.
In my experience they’ll understand the two facts but still arrive at the unwavering conclusion that it’s still better than the government running it.
Sadly, I’ve had similar experiences. Some people are so indoctrinated or have had such bad experiences with corruption in other countries, they just refuse to acknowledge how it would work in the US.
Others are so committed to the identity of not letting anyone, especially the government, tell them what to do (pay taxes), but that is a dying breed in the era of MAGA and post-Covid. (I know COVID is still very much an issue for some areas, but I digress.)
My main point is that while getting someone to understand these two facts may not change their minds, their minds will not change unless they understand these 2 facts. It opens up the door to a conversation that cannot be had beforehand.
I can agree with that. even if we can’t change their mind, they’re at least finally beginning to see that corporations don’t operate in the best interests of consumers.
With government helthcare there are also no “in network” and “out of network” doctors. You can simply just go to any fucking docktor you want and you don’t have to worry if one of the people in the hospital is out of network and you suddenly have to pay thousands for something you had basically no control over.
This is in my opinion the biggest plus of government helthcare.
This also means you don’t have to change dr every time you change your job
I think all forced insurances must also provide a government alternative to keep the vultures humble
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It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less
And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it
I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed
Americans don’t know how misinformed they are.
The American education system has been slowly eroded over decades to create an easily manipulated population of sheep.
Because they see suffering as a zero-sum game
If their life is shitty, then the only way for their life to improve is to make the life of someone else even shittier
It’s stupid and cruel
Quintessentially 'Murican
What’s interesting is the people don’t have private healthcare. Yes it’s an option and some people do take it but the vast majority don’t including people that could easily afford it.
The very types that are most likely to complain about other people getting free healthcare are also the types to make use of it.
