Non-vegans should support vegans, even if they continue to eat meat, because vegans drive better treatment of animals and also drive more attractive non-animal food options.
However, a person must have a brain and also not have meat eating tied to their masculinity.
Yeah, you can’t say the conditions we’re subjecting livestock to is “good”. You don’t give up your rights to eat bbq if you admit it.
Everyone I know actually unironically feels this way lol and always comes to me for advice on going more vegan. Vegan hatred is a strong flea dip for me though, basically any% criticism of vegans ensures I will likely never speak to you again.
Is it awful of me to have stopped eating meat from animals I think are beautiful and sweet, like cows and pigs, but still eat meat from some animals I think are ugly and mean, like chickens and sheeps?
Fun fact: The actor in this scene is vegetarian, so they used mushrooms instead of steak
Funner fact: the actor in the original Oldboy is also vegan, but he still ate that live octopus.
He’s vegetarian not vegan. It’s incredibly hard to be a vegan in korea, but it’s very easy to be a vegetarian. The vast majority of halmeoni cooking your food over there basically equivocate vegetarianism and vegan to be the same thing. A lot of traditional foods have hidden animal products in it like shrimp paste for seasoning.
I once tried talking to my like 85 year old Korean granny about it and she strongly explained to me that things like krill were more like plants than animals, which in some ways is kinda true.
TIL 200k tons of krill are harvested each year.
Ahhh, okay. I thought I had read he was vegan, maybe I misremembered or maybe the article was wrong.
May have been the article if it was originally from a Korean source. Like I said they tend to use vegan and vegetarian interchangeably a lot.
That’s slightly less fun. I’ll eat a pig or a chicken or a cow but octopodes are too smart for me to eat.
I eat smart things only to get smarter. You are what you eat after all. Octoponi, Chimpansessies, Peeps, Dolphones, etc. Ant too since I want hive mind. My brain grows.
I stopped eating them recently for that reason.
Which is kind of wild, because I don’t know if a steak has ever looked better on film than the cut shown in this scene. I understand that sentiment may not hold true for folks on vegetarian or vegan diets based on ethical grounds, but that may as well be the Platonic ideal of “fancy steak”.
Visually, yes.
However I’ve not met a mushroom that tastes and feels like beef. Impossible burgers get close but it’s far from a steak.
Have you tried the impossible steak? Highly recommend
Just realised looking at this that it’s the same actor as Ralph from The Sopranos. I’ve watched both recently too!
And Ralph’s wig in The Sopranos is modelled on Christopher Nolan’s hair when he was directing Memento, which also stars the same actor.
But who plays Cypher in the Matrix in The Sopranos universe?
Ralphie
TIL!!!
I’m in this picture and feel pretty neutral about that.
One time I had a hardcore combo meth-heroin addict who was vegan who candidly told me something to the effect of ‘idgaf what I put in my body I just have a moral problem with the livestock industry’ and I was like ‘you know what, based.’ The core issue of that conversation was that dietary sent a roll with dinner and they were like ‘naaah I can tell by the texture they used cows butter’ and like many things in the hospital they’re probably right and also at least they recognized I had no way of fixing it.
No its not fine to oppress others even if you know you are wrong to. You sound like a founding father who writes that slavery is wrong but brutally exploits slaves anyway.
Yup. The leftism leaves so many leftists’ bodies the moment animal liberation comes up. If you recognize the problem, don’t be complacent on the solution.
Unlike so many other rights struggles, basic veganism doesn’t require action, but rather the cessation of harmful actions. In that regard, it’s easier than taking action against other forms of exploitation: simply stop consuming animal products. Plant-based alternatives are readily available (I went vegan in a food desert) and are better for you than eating some poor animal’s flesh.
If you are eating boring meat like chicken breast or ground beef you might as well make it vegan or get some fat on it
People don’t wanna by hypocrites as if that can ever be truly avoided
Maaan. That is me, with so many things. At least I’m moving in the right direction, or so I like to tell me.
I don’t argue about whether or not people should be vegan. I just know that my quality of life would be vastly diminished as I really don’t enjoy most vegan food. If they can nail lab created meat, I’m all for it.
I mean, depending on where you’re from, you can already get most meat products in a convincing non-lab alternative, at least from what I hear from colleagues. (I don’t have an opinion on this, because I don’t like meat. 🫠)
That is definitely not the case. Most meat alternatives are still pretty awful
I just like annoying vegans. They call me the most metal slurs like “carnist” and “bloodmouth”.
The other middle schoolers must think you are a bad ass.
Do you think there might be a connection between “I like annoying vegans” and them reacting negatively, that says more about you than it does them?
I’ve never met a vegan like that, but I have met dozens of dickhead schoolboy bullies who think eating meat makes them manly, and pwning vegans with their hilarious same two jokes every time even more so
Lynchist
ok.
I think if you want to be vegan, go for it. Doesn’t work for me. And I’m all good with hunting.
I’m not gonna try and convince you, I promise, but just out of curiosity why doesn’t it work for you?
I get sick from a lot of foods. Don’t get me wrong, I tried it for six months and have never felt sicker. Can’t have wheat, lentils are poison. I don’t want to live a life of rice and beans, granted I love beans and rice (I get fancy Hokkaido rice). Gourds/pumpkins/etc have too much sugar. I don’t want to take supplements. Constantly being hungry wasn’t fun either.
So it’s not as I don’t eat vegetables–onions, garlic, cucumbers, tomatoes, leeks, eggplant, potatoes. But I have to have meat and cheese. I loved making salads until earlier this year… hence my user name.
When I would bike 30 miles a day, I didn’t want to eat a box spaghetti. Like cool my roommate said yeah just do that, I just got a burger halfway. Also the cold makes you a furnace; I mentioned this in another post.
One aspect is that, I lived in places that had ethical farming. And you would take responsibility for a life you take. This goes further than animals.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. All anyone can do is their best and it sounds like that’s what you’re doing 🫡
So what you’re saying is that - in principle - if we took brain cells from say a 90s kid and then infused them with the genetic material of a fully grown adult Vegan, we could cultivate a batch of neurons that not only have perfect memory, but also are never wrong and thus create the perfect thinking machine artificially created intelligence? Of course it’s not like that’s something I would be able to do by myself in my home. Biological computer chips? That’s not real technology don’t look it up its just uhhh ideas for some SciFi shit. But like, you know. In principle. Just hypothetically hypothesizing and all that…
