Four years after the Raspberry Pi 4 shipped, today the Raspberry Pi 5 is launching with a much improved SoC leading to significant performance gains.
The Raspberry Pi 5 is designed to deliver a 2~3x performance improvement over the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 features a quad-core Cortex-A76 processor that clocks up to 2.4GHz, compared to the four Cortex-A72 cores found in the Raspberry Pi 4 that only clocked up to 1.8GHz. The graphics are also much-improved with now having an 800MHz VideoCore VII graphics processor over the VideoCore VI graphics with the Raspberry Pi 4. The Raspberry Pi 5 is capable of driving two 4K @ 60Hz displays and features 4K @ 60 HEVC decode hardware capabilities.
Also interesting with the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it features in-house silicon in the form of the RP1 “southbridge” used for much of the board’s I/O capabilities. This southbridge should yield faster USB I/O along with other I/O bandwidth upgrades like a doubling of the peak SD card performance. The Raspberry Pi 5 also features a single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface for improved connectivity.
Wow the foundation really hates the idea of putting reliable dependable storage on their device.
Like would it kill you to have an M2 slot?
Honestly, given the improvement of every other capability in the boards over the years, it’s really mad we don’t have an m.2 slot as an option. Even if they ended up having to create a slightly more expensive SKU (which they seem to have no issues with given the memory options for the Pi4), I don’t think anyone would complain
Edit: apparently there’s gonna be an M.2 HAT, so that’s something at least, would prefer an option to have it on the board and the GPIO header available for something else
The single least reliable part of a raspberry pi is the storage. Always has been.
I don’t even need more professor performance, because the storage performance is the worst part.
The professor really is what sets this device apart from competition
The professor…
Are we talking Gilligan’s Island or Futurama?
Professor Calculus from Tintin
Professor Calculus from Tintin
Talk about setting the Wayback Machine on high…
Not sure, but i couldn’t help myself :D
Likely an issue with the pci express lane not being able to handle nvme and everything else.
I thought that might be the case too, but the launch page has a line that suggests an M.2 HAT will use the new PCI-E interface, so it does make you wonder why they couldn’t include the connector on the board. Might just be me, but I feel like people have been asking for this since they gave up asking for a SATA connector
Probably form factor reasons. The RPi5 doesn’t break the form the RPi3(?) set.
An M.2 makes it really difficult for a kid to pop the card out, plug it into a computer and flash it.
I think RPI Foundation is still holding onto its education-targeted roots.I think the compute models are more targeted at the industrial/commercial side of requirements.
And any homelab enthusiast would probably be better buying a cheap used/refurbished thin-clientWell, personally I could do without and if it reduces costs I’m for it. Raspberry pi was always about being cheap.
That Compute Module carrier board territory.
The official Compute Module carrier board has a 1xPCIe slot for an NVMe or SATA adapter, and there are 3rd party carrier boards with a M.2 slot on them.
This is great news… for business customers, as they’re those are the only channels they’ll be available through.
Well, unless you don’t mind spending $200-$400 per unit to scalpers, who magically never seem to run out of stock.
This is great news… for business customers, as they’re those are the only channels they’ll be available through.
Could you elaborate, as I would imagine you’d be able to buy it from anywhere that wants to sell it, if not online?Edit: As I read further into this conversation a comment stood out for me that gave me understanding on what the original comment I was replying to might have been speaking about.
They’re gonna prioritise companies again and make it impossible for normal people to get it, right?
Ever since the pandemic they’ve diverted 99% of all available inventory to business only sales channels. They blamed the chip shortage, but it’s been several years now ongoing.
You can only find the lowest tier crap stock, old stock, or scalped stock, from retail sellers.
This is very well documented and even websites setup to check stock across multiple resellers in the hopes of finding that 1% of retail allocation.
They sold out the community that built them up in favor of a business to business sales model. Don’t let their PR team, or their fanboys, tell you otherwise.
That’s the problem. They’re always out of stock.
https://www.adafruit.com/search?q=raspberry pi 4
https://www.sparkfun.com/categories/233
You’d even be hard pressed to find one at a Micro Center or some other physical store.
I just managed to get one like a month ago. After watching all the retailers I could find for like 2 years. Eventually I found a site that aggregated them to make it easier but it was Still like 3 months before I caught someone with stock in time to buy it. Figures the next one would come out right after all that…
I can find a raspberry pi 4 set for like 80-90€, but it’s on AliExpress…
You sure it’s not a knock off being sold as the real thing? Or maybe it doesn’t matter if the hardware is the same.
I’m not sure, it’s AliExpress after all lol
There are many small DIY computers on the market now, not just Raspberry Pi.
Orange Pi, Banana Pi, Asus Tinkerboard, …
Those usually don’t have delivery issues.
Orange Pi delivery is only available via Ali Express or Amazon though.
Stock does seems low on Raspberrys, but I picked up a pi 4 last week without issue.
I haven’t followed Raspberry Pi for years - when did they go from $25-35 to $100+?
Scalpers. They haven’t been available since pandemic, plus the Pi 4 was designed in 2019 so is pretty old technology at this point.
I’m hoping the Pi 5 is their big comeback: modern, twice as fast, improvements in cases and hats, etc
I’m a little disappointed to not see AV1 decoding mentioned, since Broadcom has had one for years now.
Well they clearly don’t care about video transcoding since they removed h264.
REMOVED H264??!
well then
Jesus, I thought you were joking, but I looked it up and almost did a spit-take…
- https://www.yodeck.com/news/raspberry-pi-5/
- https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/#comment-1594037
Wat. Isn’t that a fairly big deal?
Obviously I got a RPi4 just a couple months ago, after struggling for 2-3 years… Well, crap.
EDIT: at least the prices didn’t seem to have increases significantly over the previous version.
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There were a lot of supply chain issues in general that also affected the RP.
I was going to say, will I ever be able to buy one?
I was able to buy 2 Pi4’s while trying to source 20.
They cost 2 and 5 times the expected price.
I ended up converting the project to use VIA industrial x86 boards instead. Reliable supply and reliable price.
Are you talking about RPi4 or RPi5? RP4 can be now found easily, at least in my region (Spain).
Genuinely stupid question, but can someone tell me how many 1080p HEVC/REMUX streams can I run on this with jellyfin? Either I can buy this or build a budget PC, but I’ve been out of the game for far too long to do the latter (the last one I built was when CSGO was a new thing lol).
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I run Jellyfin on a RPi 4. It works for me, but only because I use codecs (h264/265 for video, AAC for audio) that are definitely supported on my players (NVidia Shield TV and android phones). This leads to Jellyfin not touching the files and just providing them to the player. As soon as any codec doesn’t fit my client (for example OPUS audio) Jellyfin starts re-encoding the audio and remuxing the stream and the stream just fails.
So yes: RPi4 is generally not able to run Jellyfin unless you have a very specific setup.
Can we get a usb-c port with data? And more power supply to the ports? I hate having to power hard disks with a separate cable.
So for how much :-D
I’d take a cheap slow one any day…
Man I really want something in the full size form factor but with a CPU closer to a zero2, basically I want a pi3 modernised and cost optimised, not another more powerful pi.
Yeah I want a cheaper zero with less power use, very few of my projects come close to using all the zeros resources so if they could do similar spec cheaper and modernized it would be amazing.
Maybe chuck on an ADC, power management for batteries, better usb power supply…
A cheap slow AVAILABLE one.
Like seriously, I’ve had horrible success trying to source Pi3/4 in the past few years and due to their bad availability, they cost so much it often end up opting for something different.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
After a difficult few years of global supply chain woes leading to limited available and heightened retail pricing on the Raspberry Pi single board computers, today there is finally an update to the family.
Also interesting with the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it features in-house silicon in the form of the RP1 “southbridge” used for much of the board’s I/O capabilities.
This southbridge should yield faster USB I/O along with other I/O bandwidth upgrades like a doubling of the peak SD card performance.
The Raspberry Pi 5 also features a single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface for improved connectivity.
The Raspberry Pi 5 also features 802.11ac WiFi, Bluetooth 5.0 / BLE, the usual microSD card slot.
The Raspberry Pi 5 features two USB 3.0 ports, two USB 2.0 ports, Gigabit Ethernet, 2 x 4-lane MIPI transcievers, PCIe 2.0 x1 via a M.2 HAT or other adapter, 5V DC power via USB-C, the classic Raspberry Pi 40-pin GPIO header, and the two micro HDMI outputs.
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why in the hell are RPs do damn proprietary?
Never understood why other company can’t produce clones for ultra cheap.
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Not bumping the PCIe lanes to 4-8 is disappointing. So is now requiring active cooling, not using USB-C for the USB3 ports, and PoE being unusable without a hat.
It’s probably time to add a higher end “pro” line to let the “education” line focus on power efficiency, tiny form factors, and low cost.
Also, did they fire the cop they hired?
You’re demanding a bunch more high performance connectivity - which means high performance silicon to run all those lanes - and complaining about the active cooling in the same post.
Did you read the second sentence? RPi needs to pick a lane, or have two targeted product lines.
For example, the MacBook Air is fanless with a lot more IO, and the Thinkpad X13s is also fanless with a lot more IO.
They are obviously not direct competitors, but they are examples of hi performance Arm silicon on the market.
The RPi is still kind of crappy, but it now requires active cooling. Crappy without a need for active cooling that’s more forgivable.
https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5?variant=42531604955331
£59.30 for the 4gig. £79 for the 8gig. No idea why people are going off thinking they need to spend £165.
Pre-order info page with dates etc:
https://support.thepihut.com/hc/en-us/articles/13847961024925
depends on the availability of the board, which historically has not been that great, the street price is gonna be upward twice to three times more than listed price.
Did they back out of their police associations?
I saw something about this somewhere else, but I don’t know what’s going on? What is this about?
The tldr is the pi foundation hired a former police officer and helped to provide hardware for ‘legal’ surveillance without a warrant. They then doubled down when confronted about it.
