• TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It does not help that many new vehicles are built like shit and have complexity for the sake of complexity. Electronic door latches, pop-out door handles, having everything controlled via a clunky, outdated, atrocious GUI, etc etc. These problems are not unique to EV’s but a lot of EV’s are going to have them just because they are brand new vehicles.

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        Yeah I’m sad that the rise of EV’s coincides with just how extra cars have become in recent years. If you sold me a mid 90s Honda Civic hatchback with an electric drivetrain, no internet connectivity, no electric door handles or touch screens, I’d be happy with it.

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        One thing that I always thought as crazy was the amount of electric and electronic shit these modern EVs have. removed, weren’t you supposed to save battery for driving? Why are you putting a light show when I’m supposed to be focused on the road?

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          Eh, something like that probably draws about half a kilowatt, and it would be hard to shed all of that functionality (I think the Mitsubishi i-Miev might, but also reverse cameras are a requirement in cars now so you can’t get rid of the screen)

          For comparison, my car has about a 65kwh battery. I probably use maybe 20kilowatts when driving, but there are lots of variables there. If my half-kilowatt estimate is reasonably accurate, you can run it alone for about 130 hours.

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          Yeah, it’s fucking dumb having all this shit added that I don’t want and I have to pay for it.

          We need a new manufacturer for the common man.

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            1 year ago

            Yes! A true car of the people, almost like a volkswagen!

            …wait that’s a car company too? And they’re part of the problem?

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        Could you imagine taking an old school Square body and making lighter with the very basic modern amenities like power windows and MAYBE a basic touch screen radio. I know aerodynamics and safety are why they aren’t around but find a way to make it work and that stuff would sell to some of the more stubborn people. Like you said strip all the nonsense out and make it basic.

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          An EV with crank windows, a parking break lever for mad j turns, and a standard double din radio so I can upgrade it like it’s the 9ps again.

          Sign me up

        • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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          Dude you could fit a literal ton of batteries into a squarebody. In my 76, the engine bay has enough room to comfortably fit multiple full grown adults inside of it with the V8 engine in place. You could probably fit 3 small block V8s in there without doing anything but removing the inner fenders.

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        1 year ago

        Imagine. No software, just a potentiometer regulating how much current goes into the engines.

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            1 year ago

            I know it wouldn’t be a potentiometer, as it is extraordinarily inefficient, but you get the idea

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      The pop-put door handles thing gets me. Like why do I need to push one end of the handle in, then pull it the rest of the way out on the opposite end? It’s so backwards and convoluted.

      Just give me a damn handle I pull out to open the damn door. Why is it so hard?

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          That’s true, but also dumb at the same time.

          The benefit of reduced drag applies regardless of mode of propulsion.

          So really, it’s complexity for complexity sake.

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            not really, because gas engines are so inefficient outside of their ideal RPM range that a little extra drag is barely noticeable.

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        I bet they add all that dumb shit so it breaks and you have to buy a new car after all the bells and whistles are busted and you cant open your doors or trunk, since the motor is so much more reliable and needs less maintenance.

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      Yeah. I like a nice big touchscreen for infotainment and navigation, but everything else should still be knobs, buttons, and sliders on the dashboard.

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      It’s just more pronounced in EVs right now because there’s been a huge rush to build EVs and a lot of manufacturers are in their first or second year of offering them. Tesla fares relatively well because they’ve pumped out millions of cars for several years and they focus only on EVs. Meanwhile the EV shitboxes being rushed out by Ford and Chrysler are… shitboxes.

      The brand graph is useless here because many of these brands make gas and EV cars. I want to know how the Nissan Leaf fares, for example. They’ve been making it for years. Has it reached the same reliability as other Nissan cars?