I wonder if it has anything to do with inequality and the eroding of mainstreet America in favor of a winner-take-all economy that uses compound interest as a weapon?
No, it’s the voters who are wrong.
Other countries aren’t as violent or try to overthrow elections either.
And if a coup happens in South America, there’s a good chance the CIA is behind it.
As a Canadian worked in the states for 5 years, was not the dumpster fire as portrayed. It wad fine, media is cancer.
If it is, it’s stange that it has this result only in the US and not the rest of the world too
I 100% agree. The root of this system is the inflationary policy of the central banking system.
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no. because that is happening in other 1st world countries as well.
Yes it is. Other first world countries don’t have 650 incidents.
But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽
They’re happening so often you don’t even notice them most of the time.
This is what dystopia looks like.
They’re happening so often you don’t even notice them most of the time.
We don’t notice them most of the time because they are street crimes happening a thousand miles away that have no impact on our daily lives.
A bunch of thugs shooting each other outside of a club in Houston have no impact on someone living in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Amazes me how many Americans justify systemic bullshit by writing people off as “thugs”.
Yawn, got anything better than middle school ad hominem?
More observation than ad hominem, unless of course you identify with what is observed.
How many have you seen happen? How many people do you know that were shot?
Your change in attitude is going to be so funny when it happens in your little circle. You’ll even be angry at me because you were wrong in advance and knew it.
I had a friend killed last year, another friend with him survived with 8 bullet wounds. It’s fucking infuriating. We don’t even know who did it. Just a couple assholes walking up to a couple guys playing DND at the park and unloading on them.
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I can’t say mass shootings, but I personally have been shot at once. And at the walmart I used to work at 2 different people were shot by police in the 5 years i was there. I also saw someone pull a gun while I was there but luckily the cop was already coming back because of the fight. There was also an incident while i was there where a guy pulled a gun on the OGP guy because he took to long to get the groceries out to the car.
Oh yeah ive been held up at gunpoint. Literally almost forgot that one.
“mass shooting” usually means one shooter and multiple people hit. So a drunk, mad guy at a party who pulls out a gun and shoots 3 people will count towards the number but probably not make it past local news. Not every mass shooting is a school shooting or terrorist attack, but those get the most attention.
Is this supposed to make us feel better? Because it’s still batshit insane.
No, they were explaining why they don’t hear about 1.65 mass shootings every day.
They’ve become so common, they’re mostly unreported now unless they’re unusual in some way, like the Maine shooting by a Guardsman who was watched by law enforcement for months in advance.
Yes, mass shootings in the US have become mundane.
I’m starting to feel like I was right by not wanting to move to the USA. Like, sure, the tech salaries here are 2-3x lower, but I’m more than 2-3x less likely to die in a shooting so I think it balances out a little bit.
Emotions are a removed aren’t they?
Your odds of dying in a shooting are virtually zero unless you hang out in schools for fun. Media wants you to feel this way. Stop being played by the media.
Odds are significantly higher that you’ll die in a car accident or from cancer.
Well the car deaths being on the rise is also a policy failure. We’re letting car makers make cars that are better at killing pedestrians. Kind of sounds familiar…
And sure the odds are small I would get involved in a mass shooting, my kids who go to school however literally have school shooting drills.
They have become so common, they are no longer newsworthy. You’ll need to kill at least ten now for your 15 minutes of fame.
Pretty much…
But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽
It’s because 99% of these mass shootings aren’t spree shooters in a school or public place. What pushes the number so high is street type stuff; shootings outside a bar or club, rival gangs shooting at each other, or drug deals gone wrong.
You can see it for yourself by pulling up the Mass Shooting List over at the GVA and then clicking through to review the incidents.
We really need a new definition for these because it doesn’t line up with how people think about them, and as a result the stats are easy to ignore.
The point is to lump school shootings and terrorist shootings in with random personal dispute shootings and gang violence shootings.
That way you hear about all these mass shootings and think that ~30,000 firearms deaths per year are mass shootings instead of ~2/3 suicides, ~500 “accidental”, ~1,500 police, and up to 80% of the remainder being hood business. Actual mass shootings are a tiny number of firearms deaths and they are the poster child for the problem.
The majority of firearms deaths can be solved with healthcare reform, economic reform, and rebuilding the American community.
When the language doesn’t fit the mold, I admit the first impression is to get them excluded. But even when gangs only intend to hurt each other, it’s very easy for them to kill innocent bystanders.
I’m adamant that things like suicides should not be excluded from gun statistics. Many people who’ve attempted via knives/pills have survived, and gone on to say they regret their attempt and bounced back.
I mean, when you have to kill two dozen people to make the headlines, a lot of them go under the radar.
Because we’re not having that many…once again it’s a click bait title using the gunsrcool database which has been found to be horribly inaccurate…but anti-gun people love to use it as facts.
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent
Literally NPR even had to do a piece on how bad the stats are pulled.
The remaining 59 could not be confirmed or disconfirmed by NPR.
Let me get this straight NPR hired out another group to call the schools and ask them if they had shootings and then if the person answering that day said no or couldn’t confirm or deny it, they just said okay thanks and then counted it as not a shooting?
Lol wut
Good thing school faculty never lies about negative things, I guess!
Lol so your rebuttal to the article is because someone else called these schools? And that faculty lie? Did you even read the article? The way the gov. Got these metrics is literally how you just used to refute the point… it’s actually worse because the gov. Didn’t even call and get a person, they just had a form…lol
You and the others who don’t like the data from a left leaning source…wow…
My rebuttal is that it’s simply unreliable to ask random faculty members to tell you the truth about things that make their school look bad.
That’s not unreasonable, even for yes, this huge liberal hippie.
“We called each school multiple times for 3 months” tells me absolutely nothing. It could have been two calls, it could have been two thousand, but they are extremely short on details for some reason.
And since they outsourced it to a third party it adds another layer of obfuscation that makes it difficult to answer anything.
And finally, the way they settled on not being able to confirm or deny most of the shootings, but still phrased it as if kids shooting each other at school wasn’t a big deal. Like, seriously?
I’m very disappointed in the author of this NPR article, which usually does their due diligence on these issues.
But again… you’re ok with how the info is gained? Because it supports your view that school shootings happen a few times a day in the US…got it.
Hopefully whatever government rises up from the ashes of the US after its inevitable downfall will put gun control in the constitution.
We have this crazy thing in democracy we’re supposed to use where we’re allowed to all vote to change stuff about how the government runs to make things run better.
The hard part of government has never been the governing principals, but the politicians themselves. Idc what government system you choose, I will point out to you how it can be exploited and poisoned.
Half the presidents in my lifetime lost the popular vote.
We don’t have democracy.
The hard part about democracy is having a democracy that’s actually controlled by the people.
Americans when they can’t have wars:
Oh yhe, -brings wars into schools
Some supporting and related information.
An Examination of US School Mass Shootings, 2017–2022: Findings and Implications
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41252-022-00277-3
Objectives
Gun violence in the USA is a pressing social and public health issue. As rates of gun violence continue to rise, deaths resulting from such violence rise as well. School shootings, in particular, are at their highest recorded levels. In this study, we examined rates of intentional firearm deaths, mass shootings, and school mass shootings in the USA using data from the past 5 years, 2017–2022, to assess trends and reappraise prior examination of this issue.
Methods
Extant data regarding shooting deaths from 2017 through 2020 were obtained from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, the web-based injury statistics query and reporting system (WISQARS), and, for school shootings in particular (2017–2022), from Everytown Research & Policy.
Results
The number of intentional firearm deaths and the crude death rates increased from 2017 to 2020 in all age categories; crude death rates rose from 4.47 in 2017 to 5.88 in 2020. School shootings made a sharp decline in 2020—understandably so, given the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent government or locally mandated school shutdowns—but rose again sharply in 2021.
Conclusions
Recent data suggest continued upward trends in school shootings, school mass shootings, and related deaths over the past 5 years. Notably, gun violence disproportionately affects boys, especially Black boys, with much higher gun deaths per capita for this group than for any other group of youth. Implications for policy and practice are provided.
Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013–2021): A worsening American epidemic of death
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amjsurg.2023.03.028
Background
Mass shootings represent a significant problem in the United States (US). This study aimed to examine trends in mass shootings in the US over time.
Methods
Retrospective mass shooting data (1/2013–12/2021) were collected from the Gun Violence Archive. A scatterplot was constructed showing predicted (extrapolated from 2013 to 2019) versus actual total mass shootings in 2020 and 2021. Multivariate linear regressions were performed to evaluate trends in mass shootings over time, associated with gun law strength.
Results
Mass shooting incidents, injuries, and deaths in 2020 and 2021 exceeded extrapolations from previous years. When comparing 2019 to 2020, stronger gun laws were associated with decreased monthly mass shooting deaths. For these same strong gun law states, monthly mass shooting deaths decreased when comparing 2019 to 2021 and comparing 2020 to 2021.
Conclusions
US mass shootings have increased over the past decade. Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial “American problem” of mass shootings.
We’re number one! USA! USA! USA! Pew! Pew! In your face every other country in the world!
Laughed harder than I should
a record since the Gun Violence Archive began tracking data in 2014.
Not to downplay the situation, but they’ve only been keeping track for a decade.
But look, how the numbers are rising since 2014 - if it would go the same pace in the other direction, it would mean no mass shootings before around 2008?Edit: my thinking was crappy…
That’s a billion percent increase from the time I started paying attention until now! Grants plz
3 days left everyone! We can do this, let’s break that record!!
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Take your bow conservatives. This is ALL a result of your cowardice.
The wikipedia list on this is sad and depressing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
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A thousand meters
Maybe 2024 will be the year they implement gun controls…
Do you mean, like, remote controls?
At some point it’s just gonna be a war
I don’t know about whether the definition of mass shooting is appropriate or not, but at least for me when I think of the phrase mass shootings the image evoked is of the senseless killing sprees that happen in churches and schools that always make national news. I imagine most people also have that definition in their head and so when these statistics make the headlines, and a headline like this is supposed to shock, so there is a mismatch of what the numbers say and their reality.
That matters because to most Americans gun violence is still something that isn’t a salient issue in American politics and the public opinion for gun control is relatively much lower in intensity. It also matters how many of these shootings take place in minority communities compared to white neighborhoods.
There’s still time. You don’t have to settle for second.
