• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    God, if only we hadn’t voted for the Democrats. Then things would really have improved.

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        12 days ago

        Would’ve helped. Still doesn’t excuse the “BOTHSIDES” game on the eve of literal fascism.

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          11 days ago

          You admit that running an actual progressive instead of a pro-fracking genocide apologist would be better, yet you think that admitting the weakness of our fascist “allies” isn’t excusable?

          Make it make sense.

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            You admit that running an actual progressive instead of a pro-fracking genocide apologist would be better, yet you think that admitting the weakness of our fascist “allies” isn’t excusable?

            Make it make sense.

            Big difference between “Dems ran a weak campaign and are feckless out-of-touch morons” and “Liberals are part of a duopoly conspiracy to move everything rightward and things only get worse, please ignore that we haven’t been moving continually rightward since the induction of the current two-party system”

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              11 days ago

              I don’t see any contradiction there.

              The dem candidate literally platformed Republicans as part of the campaign, how are we supposed to pretend that they actually think Republicans are a threat to democracy?

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    The ratchet effect is incorrect because it fails to describe the actual dynamic at play. Neoliberals move one step forward while fascists move three steps back. A fascist power grab followed by a neoliberal’s incremental changes appear to the causal observer as the ratchet effect.

    The solution is not to disparage the democratic process, thereby denying ourselves the chances of ever getting progressive or socialist agendas implemented. But to recognize it is nonviable to ever allow fascists to win. Especially when you only have neoliberals to replace them with.

    I should have come up with this sooner, but it really takes seeing the sword of Damocles overhead that is impending fascism to not give a shit what others think of you.

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    11 days ago

    Wait, do you think that the united states is less progressive than it was 10 years ago? How about 20 years ago? 30?

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      I had someone tell me the other day that the US was more fascist in mid-2024 than in the 1920s.

      People often believe what confirms their pre-existing beliefs without regard for truth.

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        Women got the right to vote in 1920, but it wasn’t until 1968 that minority women were allowed to vote, and 1990 when the Americans with disabilities act passed. Crazy to me how people can look past monumental changes like that.

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          Don’t ask don’t tell ended in 2011. It started in 94, prior to that the military was actively hunting and discharging gay members.

          A highschool in Georgia had their first integrated prom in fucking 2013.