Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”
The judge is going to create the exact effect they’re trying to avoid with that $100,000 bond!
They set $100K bond and she could get a 15 year prison sentence!?!?!? That’s insane. Far far out of proportion to what she said. Obviously there’s no way she is any kind of a threat to anyone and they know it. But they’re going to fuck her over to make an example of her. What a dystopia we’re living in.
It feels like the elites “putting us in our place”. This is a form of torture, a sentence or threat of a sentence that is far too strict for the crime. Publicize it so the masses can see.
Feels like they’re trying to show us what happens when we get uppity with the billionaire class.
Hopefully I’m wrong. Hopefully there’s still rule of law, a judge throws it out, and maybe she can sue. Time will tell.
More likely, she’ll get a 100k settlement for the violation of her first amendment rights.
First amendment violation. I hope she sues the shit out of them.
Facebook up, delete a gym, hit a lawyer.
1A doesn’t cover threats of violence.
What threat?
Unless there was an actual threat (I’m lazy I can’t be bothered to read the article. That’s why I’m in the comments) , deny delay depose isn’t a threat in any way. It’s a tactic that insurance agents use to boost profits. Saying that is merely showing your disgust with the practice.
“Delay, Deny, Defend” is the health insurance tactic a book was written about. You will notice there is a key difference between those words and what was said on the phone call.
The difference being a word that typically means remove from power. Not a threat. Any lawyer can get the case dismissed by showing the book with the original words in court and argue it’s a natural play on words anyone could come up with.
I was specifically correcting their impression that it was the health insurers’ slogan, rather than a reference to the shooting
But since you were also too lazy to read the article, it’s what was said next that really contributes to a threat
Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.”
“You people are next” is a prediction, not a threat.
How is “delay, deny, depose” not a threat with current events? C’mon, that’s disingenuous.
Because it’s a fucking book title.
Almost a book title
You should read the article.
“Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” isn’t exactly a threat. Definitely not something that someone ought to be arrested for.
In what way did she threaten violence
You people are next.
As someone else said, sounds like a prediction, not a threat. To arrest a mother, who doesn’t own a weapon and has no criminal record, it’s insane to use that as justification for incarceration.
How do those boots taste?
If I told you I was going to shoot you, would you have any way to immediately validate that threat? Do you know if I own a gun? Can you find out in a reasonable time to defend yourself if I was being serious with such a threat? Whether or not she can carry out the threat is irrelevant to the threat being made.
How do those boots taste?
Congratulations on falling for the corpo propaganda and thinking that we should be fighting amongst ourselves.
If you said “I’m gonna be the cause of you being next”, that’s a threat. “You’re next” is not a threat. Also, next to what? Any good lawyer is gonna have a field day with this.
“You’re next” is not a threat.
Contextually, it 100% is a threat. She preceded “You people are next” with the same message left behind by Mangione at the scene of the murder, a recent event that everybody involved in the conversation was aware of. Sure, if that statement existed in a vacuum, it’d be an open-and-shut case, but it was part of a larger conversation.
Also:
she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”
So yeah… she’s gonna need a really good lawyer.
Why was her claim denied? Guys? WHY WAS HER CLAIM DENIED?
Somebody ought to rally like a million people to all call their insurance company on the same day and just say delay, deny, depose. If so many people do it, and they try to arrest everybody, they would be absolutely overwhelmed.
Careful tempting the state into violence - you might be surprised to the depths they’re willing to sink to and for how little. Nixon had the state guard execute peaceful student protesters - American kids!
[she] was charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism
How
Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.
Probably the last sentence
The woman just means that the people she was talking to will be screwed over by insurance too.
She was saying we’re all in this together, basically!
She doesn’t even own a gun and seems to pose little tangible threat, yet they’re claiming intent to commit mass murder or terrorism. Its a ridiculous stretch from that little comment
Her last sentence was a prediction, not a threat.
What fucking hellscape are we living in? Even referencing the strategy of billion dollar insurance companies gets you arrested? I’m literally at my limit with how insane this has gotten.
She was referencing words etched onto bullets that killed a healthcare CEO.
No shit, that’s her first amendment right.
No, see, everyone is misunderstanding. She was threatening to commit mass murder by starting her own health insurance company and using the tried and true Delay, Deny, Depose method of profiting from murder.
Oh, this is fine then. Charges dismissed!
