• Hubi@feddit.orgOP
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    5 days ago

    Not really. The conservatives have tried adopting talking points from the far right, but all it did was legitimize these stances. It actually caused even more voters to shift further right, with moderates becoming increasingly demoralized. The right will always vote right, no matter what the details of the actual policies are. The left will just further divide itself by taking conservative stances. A party has to fit a niche, and you won’t get that by just taking policies from others.

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      A party has to fit a niche, and you won’t get that by just taking policies from others.

      Thank you for saying this. Any faction which tries to be close but no quite identical to another partys philosophy is going to have no real voters, and they will lose. Its what happened in the US. You have to dance with the person who accompanied you to the dance.

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      It is possible to be economically and socially left but still have issues with migration making problems.

      Shoehorning progressives into uncomfortable stances isn’t the way either

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      Take the political spectrum. Everyone except the far left fringe cares about immigration and secure borders.

      You don’t have to hate immigrants or be a racist to want your country’s borders safe and illegal immigration curbed.

      The left can keep ignoring this at their own peril.

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        But Germany doesn’t actually have a problem with illegal immigration. Almost all immigrants in Germany are here legally.

        There are roughly 50.000 “Ausreisepflichtige” (Persons required to leave the country) out of a population of 84 Million. That number is roughly constant over the last 10 years. Doesn’t seem to be an issue worth discussing.

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        You don’t have to hate immigrants or be a racist to want your country’s borders safe and illegal immigration curbed.

        That’s a fig leaf. I’m a 99.99% certain you’d be against making legal immigration requirements less demanding and legal immigration application procedures less lengthy and difficult. You’re against immigrants and you’re hiding behind the legality of strict immigration requirements imposed by the right to claim all you want is people to follow the (impossible if you’re not a Westerner) rules.