• GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 days ago

    Ooh! Word play! Lemme try!

    America didn’t torture it’s detainees in the “war” on terror; we used Enhanced InterrogationTM! Now with less calories!

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      Enhanced interrogation techniques in the “police action” in the middle east because we had “proof” they had “WMDs” no less. It definitely “wasn’t” a war based on lies for oil…

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        It definitely “wasn’t” a war based on lies for oil…

        I mean, it was definitely a war based on lies, but not for oil.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    65
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    It’s not like they’ve done any imperialist-like actions like attack a country unprovoked or anything LMAO

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        3 days ago

        Argh. That Chinese guy at the MSC gave me a headache about that one. Paraphrasing: “China does consider the Russian invasion a result of NATO expansion: The Russians think that you’re stepping on their toes, they think in influence spheres, and neither we nor you can change their mind about that”.

        More or less “you bumped into a stupid drunk, now they’re hitting you, what did you expect, the drunk to not be stupid?”

        • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          Equally though if the drunk was walking around trying to start a fight then it’s fairly expected and your actions kind of did start the fight, even though it’s absolutely the drunk who’s in the wrong

  • hydroptic@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Yeah they’re not imperialist, the “People’s Republics” that keep popping up in different places and then get attacked by Russia to “protect them” are totally organic.

    Honestly this person has to be American. You hear so much less of this bullshit in Europe (although definitely not nonzero amounts… we have more than our share of idiots and fascists too, unfortunately), especially anywhere near Russia. “Russia isn’t imperialist” sounds so much dumber when their imperialism is happening right next door.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 days ago

      Russian propaganda targeting EU has to be more sophisticated since EU residents know Russian history better.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      3 days ago

      But they were invited! You see, when African autocrats invite Wagner to strip mine their nations it’s their right as sovereign states. Don’t confuse this for support of European states using their right to self determination to associate with NATO, however. That’s clearly imperialism, because reasons.

  • mlg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    3 days ago

    I mean… they wasted so many resources in Ukraine that they had to pull out of their imperialist schemes like in Syria which collapsed in a matter of weeks lol. Could go with flailing imperialist.

  • FundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    3 days ago

    What does 🔺🔻 emoji mean?

    I’d say about 50% of people I see with that emoji in their profile are tankies, while the other 50% are old school anti-authoritarian marxists.

  • menas@lemmy.wtf
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    It’s fun with this rhetoric, 'cause if you replace imperialism by capitalism, and country name with corporation name, we immediately see how confuse it is. “You can’t say Shell is capitalist, it’s not the global leader in the Petrolum Market. BT is”

    We are talking about system. The Federation of Russia engaged in a competition against NATO, which result in wars and economic predation for power and ressources.

    The same logic apply for Iran and China, but not on the same scale. A state is structured with the current international relationship; it need to gather power to secure its existence. Exactly like a corporation. North Korea is weak example of imperialism, not because it would be “socialist”, but because it is losing the competition against other states.

    That’s why strong workers organisations where independent from states and political parties. And that’s why we may mobilize first and mainly (but not only) against our one State imperialism, in order to not feeding this international competition.

    And if you think that’s their is no colonial history in Russia, you may think again. The Eastern conquest had some similarity with the western one in the USA.

  • phr@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    3 days ago

    i’ve read a book once that was just an introductory overview on what theories of imperialism are out there. why don’t other ppl try to read a book once?

    • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 days ago

      Because it’s much easier to not read any books, tell anyone who recommends reading ‘don’t tell me what to do’, and then adopt all of the opinions of a demagogue who sounds smart to uneducated people and uses lies and misinformation to reinforce confirmation biases