Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

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    due to limited ressources

    Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn’t know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.

    It looks like they’re not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they’re on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.

    I really don’t get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.

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    Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

    Even if you agree with Proton’s positions it’s clear that Andy is just tanking the company’s image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

    Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

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    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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      The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…

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    I only use their Drive, I need a privacy focused alternative with a browser version in case I can’t convince my family to download an app, any recommendations?

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      Filen.io is decent. Client is open source and storage is locally encrypted. They claim to use zero knowledge tech on their end.

      Additionally, look into rclone to upload and automatically encrypt data to cloud providers. This way, cloud providers can’t access your data regardless.

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    What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would’ve kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

    It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don’t mind abusing for free now.

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    Not that they’ll care but I bought for two years but will find something else when that runs out.

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    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

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    I’m so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad…It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

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    Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don’t need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

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      Everyone doing social media posts to multiple networks from a single app. This is a BS excuse from Proton. Very disappointing.

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    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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      They did, yes.

      I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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      People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion

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        So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

        show some hope huh

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          Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA

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      Whoo boy. The Proton CEO posted a deeply troubling remark praising trump and republicans as the champions of the little guy, and lambasted democrats for being in the pocket of big tech. This, understandably, seemed rather… icky to a great many people, who dislike the idea of the service they trust for privacy kissing the ring of the Fascist in Chief/Putin’s Towelboy/Elon’s Hamberder Carrier. This might have been more palatable if it was made clear that Proton itself does NOT endorse the policies of Melon Husk’s puppet administration and the MAGAt Horde, and that the original post was made by the CEO in his capacity as a private citizen, and not as the CEO of Proton.

      So when, in the face of backlash from the federated community, Proton decided to just leave the fediverse, rather than clarify its position, but stay on Reddit & the Xitter, using the half-baked excuse of “it’s too expensive for us to cross-post on this completely free system”, people, understandably, took this to indicate that Proton, previously one of the most trusted privacy companies, may not be as independent as its swiss headquarters leads one to believe.

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      Here’s one archive reddit thread proton responded with that has since been edited to remove the comment.

      https://archive.ph/quYyb

      There’s also a medium article from a random user that keeps being reposted to defend him. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

      But, it leaves out that Gail Slater left the FTC to became vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association which is a lobbying group for companies like Google, Amazon, eBay, and Facebook.

      The Internet Association—a trade group for big technology companies such as Google, Facebook, and Amazon—spent nearly $176,000 to lobby the California legislature last quarter, according to the Washington Post. It is now running misleading ads on social media asking Sacramento lawmakers to weaken the law.

      The group claims that surveillance-based advertising technology, which slurps up and broadly spreads consumers’ personal data without their knowledge, should be exempted from the CCPA. In truth, surveillance-based adtech is one of the worst privacy hazards that the law was designed to stop. It also provides little benefit to online publishers, and erodes trust between companies and their consumers.

      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

      Which is a pretty big omission if the argument the founder/CEO made hinges on trying to make people believe Gail Slater having been on the FTC means she fights for little tech.

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    I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

    All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it’s going to, and Andy Yen’s social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren’t going to win back.

    If so, I’d expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other “I’m being watched!!” kooks.