McIntire, a 19-year-old student at Boston’s University of Massachusetts, appeared in federal court Friday and has been charged with one count of unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device and one count of malicious damage by fire of any property used in interstate commerce.
Feed birds next to Tesla dealerships.
You know what? I know this was a joke but this is a fantastic idea. A way to protest that even the old and weak can take part in. What are you going to do, outlaw feeding birds? Good luck with that.
Oh yeah, totally joking lol.
Lesson learned, I guess. If she had only set fire to the Capitol in support of an insurrection in support of the far right, she’d be up for a pardon.
How much is her bail
Just getting started
Impossible. She was at my house at the time of said incident.
I can vouch for this
I set fire to that dealership.
Another witness filmed a video of the fire and posted it on X, the affidavit said. The witness claimed they saw McIntire fleeing the scene.
And the rats? What do they get? Honestly, disgusting that someone would help the police find her. Like what even are your morals. Fucking pathetic.
America does have a greater than zero percentage of spineless bootlickers, more interested in upvotes and likes than their own freedom, unfortunately.
Snitches get stitches.
“Leave the multi billion dollar company alone unsheaths plastic katana”
“Listen, I’m legally required to tell you to cease your ingress ma’am. Please don’t make me tell you again. I will raise my voice if i have to!”
Plenty of fiction media describes how you should treat collaborators
him* possibly them*
-The article says the suspects full name is “Owen McIntire” being the only hint to suspect gender.
I kinda both like and dislike that something as arbitrary as long hair and no beard can cause this kind of debate. In the '80s, the assumption probably would’ve just been that they’re a fan of hair metal lol.
I like it because it means that it’s a lot easier to bend gender norms (and be seen as bending gender norms) than I thought and it also just proves how full of shit people are when they claim they “can tell” and that at least half of their perception of the world is dictated by their culture.
I dislike it for the same reasons though. Because it means that this world is still a lot more puritanical and prone to pearl clutching than I thought. It means that boys with long hair who don’t like sports are going to be getting beaten up and bullied for being ‘gay’ or whatever. It means that sightly butch women won’t be able to use public bathrooms without judgmental, psychotic people wanting to make that woman’s genitals their own business. It means that I’m living in a world with people who still think in terms of long hair = girl, who haven’t ever expanded their minds or considered that their own cultural norms don’t apply to everyone in the slightest.
Wow. You about summed up my experience but in the late 90’s, early 00’s. Good work!
Yes, arson is a crime, and rightly so. “Decades behind bars”, however, for setting two cars on fire (and damaging two charging stations) is insanely disproportionate. There’s a very important reason that not all infractions are sentenced to the maximum possible extent:
If the government is going to drop any pretense of mercy or sanity, then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t take their time, plan things carefully, and destroy the whole dealership. People who would otherwise do less damage are taking note. Sure, some will be scared away, but I think more will be emboldened. Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t matter. Either way, the end result will be worse.
The government is basically telling people that prosecutors won’t be reasonable, so you might as well make sure the crime is truly worthy of the punishment. I cannot overemphasize what a terrible idea this is.
It’s like the zero-tolerance policy my at my kid’s school…
I told them if you get hit, since you’re going to get suspended anyway, fight back until I get there to pick you up.
“zero tolerance” in public schools is 100% copout cowardice from administrators who would rather hide behind policy instead of having to earn their six-figure incomes by making the basic fundamental decisions that the job duties entail. All principals everywhere are midwit cowards.
While I agree with the assessment of zero tolerance policies, there isn’t a soul in our entire school district that is making 6 figures. Most of the faculty in our district are barely scraping by because the voters believe this collective delusion that schools have more money than god and are full of wasteful spending. That is a lie promulgated by conservatives to defund schools.
Stop feeding that lie.
The problem is admin.
Principals make a bit less than $100k. One year, my principal just didn’t show up to work. Like, it was a game where she’d show up in the morning sometimes if the superintendent was going to be there, but otherwise completely gone.
But, if I tried to do something like give the star basketball player the grade he earned, or tried to write up a student for watching tiktoks on full volume during class - she’d show up just to force me to do nothing.
I am a public school advocate from MI where every single administrator in the state makes six figures as well as many gym teachers who don’t yet grasp the English language’s most basic homophones.
This is reality. I think public school admin has collectively failed our country as much if not more so than any profession.
I am a (recently) former school board member of my district in MI and personally reviewed the compensation packages for our staff.
Quit spreading bullshit.
Which district? I’m in Grand Rapids and can name TWO gym teachers from my first failing district who pulled six figures and struggled with the most basic homophones.
It’s not BS to say that admin makes six figures. Most all admin do.
Your very own OP said (and I’m on mobile with a shit app so I can’t copy and paste, so I’m quoting from memory, but y’all can look up there for the actual words): "I’m a public education advocate from MI and all (emphasis mine) admin make 6 figures.
That part. That’s a lie. You’re now moving the goalposts and I’m calling you on your bullshit.
I’m not going to do myself as I’ve taken pains to remain anonymous after being doxxed and harassed on that other shit platform. Suffice it to say that I don’t live in one of the most affluent school districts in Michigan (ahem; Rockford and what other ISD’s around GR?). I live among the poorest.
I’m not disagreeing on gym teachers not knowing the basics of other subjects, but you keep going on your gish gallop.
It’s a pro bullying policy designed to hurt bullying victims, who are the same people who are oppressed as adults and that’s not by accident
News media unfortunately tends to look up the absolute maximum a crime can be sentenced and reports as if that is the default sentencing. It is rare for crimes to be sentenced to the max. If we can get past the screaming about “but this is Trump’s America now!”, the sentencing is still unlikely to be at the max, or at least not maxed out on every count.
I wish the article had shown their work, because from my skim (quick skim, but I’m pretty solid on the DD charge maximum at least) the two charges together have a maximum sentencing of 17 years combined if charged by the federal system. It would have been 13 if the state had charged.
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Her punishment should be at least as bad as the sentences rioters served for breaking into the U.S. capitol. Or maybe that should be the cap since her actions didn’t result in death and weren’t intended as an attempt at insurrection (unless someone that owns Tesla is now considered the head of government).
Absolutely, it’s called a proportional response for a reason. I always think of the West Wing scene when this subject comes up. The whole scene lives in my head rent free to be honest.
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Cop: kills innocent man; gets 2 years of prison
Student: burns 2 ugly as fuck cars in protest, hurting no actual people; gets several decades of prison
One of them was against our poor victimised billionaire class!
Don’t get captured
What thee heck is a destructive device? A can of petrol? This is ludicrous, double and triple charging people.
The keyword here is “Alleged”. As far as anyone knows, She was just falsely-flagged.
Oh, great! Now Donald will be like, “we’ll need to look in to BU. We believe they are harboring terrorist.”
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
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Tough talk from a keyboard warrior. I expect the next act of civil disobedience to be tagged “this one is for Lemmy fam” or you’re full of it.
Nothing but false bravado from russian subversive operators as far as I see.
Multiple people have tried to shoot trump. Can you acknowledge this reality?
So, you’re saying only incompetent people espouse violence on social media? I’d agree with that except the person I’m criticizing is not american so I cannot in good conscience presume incompetence.
My country isn’t turned to shit like America. I just choose not to go, but sooner or later the rest of the world may have to do something if their own citizens won’t.
Why would you ask someone to do this? I like this place. I’d rather not see that happen.
Human beings are being pushed too far right now in America. I would have a healthier fear of it than you seem to.
Conversely to shut them up. It’s all impotent frustration that isn’t going to pan out to shit. Real gradeschoolers in the playground vibes.
I wouldn’t call your fear healthy until it is about something happening. Right now you’re empowering their BS tbh so some self-reflection might be in order on your part.
It’s bigger grade schooler on the playground vibes that you feel the need to chime in insulting strangers.
Careful now or I’ll raise my virtual fist in the air and you’ll be quaking in your boots for the rest of the day.
I mean, arson itself is usually punished very harshly because it can easily get out of control and kill people (and most of those laws predate modern fire safety standards). It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them. Or if you do, try not to get caught.
It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them.
One popular method of destroying cybertrucks is simply treating them like a normal car. Perhaps Owen should have vandalized their neighbor’s car by giving it a good rinse? That tends to brick these dumpsters
How easily have the arson against Tesla killed people?
I think it’s not easy because no one has died
I’m talking about why arson in general has harsher penalties compared to other forms of property crime, I’m not talking about specific instances.
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For real, those piece of shit cars have more rights than we do
If the Federal government takes over prosecution the big charge is going to be that Destructive Device charge which looks to be up to 10 years. It seems unlikely the sentence imposed would be the max on every charge, media loves to report maximums as if they are automatically what always gets handed down, but that’s just media being dramatic.
I’d really love media articles to actually explain sentencing in detail on articles where they just throw around numbers without explaining them.