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A threads post saying “There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America’s 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that’s already been said.” It has a reply saying “My local pub is older than your country”.

Edit: swapped image link, RIP lemm.ee

Original link: https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/b4d2f599-1922-4978-9db3-fc7832681c10.png

  • adarza@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    the u.s. is ‘young’, relative to the world stage, this is true; but its constitution is among the oldest in the world… and it is starting to show its age.

    • Raltoid@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      It was “showing its age” a not long after it was made. Two years later the French based their first written constution on the US one. Then other nations followed suit over the years and wanted their own, and they already thought the French one was the better option as a starting point.

    • cabbage@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      Constitutionalism is a new idea. Pioneered by America. Of course America will have the oldest until it collapses.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, this is a misunderstanding among conservatives. Our legal system and government structure is woefully outdated, but our country is really young.

      It’s like a teen athlete being really proud that he has the oldest sneakers of all the competitors.

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    So, yeah, that first person is a dumb-ass, but that second comment doesn’t really prove anything. I live in a 400 year-old town in this 250 year-old country,

    • Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, we have bars in the USA that predate the founding of the country as well. White Horse Tavern in Newport, Rhode Island had been operating since 1673.

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        Yeah, I’m in Massachusetts, and you can drive to any town on the North Shore and find houses with plaques dating them to the late-sixteen or early-seventeen hundreds. They’re not even landmarks, they’re just someone’s house.

  • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    France, Switzerland, england, bavaria, brandenburg, vatican, spain, netherlands, denmark, sweden, portugal

    I could go on and on

  • Chronographs@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Even ignoring how obviously wrong this is about how old other countries are, America turns 250 in 2026 not 2025 lol

    • potoo22@programming.dev
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      3 months ago

      I know this not because I paid attention in history class, but because I played Fallout 76 where the vault dwellers celebrate America’s Tricentennial before leaving the vault and find it a wasteland.

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    It is wild to me how Americans forget that they built their “nation” upon the genocide of earlier (first) nations, which were there for thousands of years.

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      Genocide has been a frequent practice for thousands of years, ever since the standard social unit was the tribe and one tribe would massacre another. Whole populations have been “put to the sword”. The Americas are probably the largest single area, but if you really knew your history it would seem just as wild that Europeans and others around the world have forgotten about this.

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
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        Americans were straight up humane in their genocide vs. historical examples. Hell, I’d say Israel is doing worse today, not even pretending to make treaties, move people about, nothing.

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          Sure… Gaza is worse off that Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

          A 1975 U.S. Senate subcommittee estimated around 1.4 million civilian casualties in South Vietnam because of the war, including 415,000 deaths. An estimate by the Department of Defense after the war gave a figure of 1.2 million civilian casualties, including 195,000 deaths

          The Israel-Hamas war has less than 0.003% of the casualties the US inflicted on Vietnam. That’s not to say the Israel-Hamas War isn’t a bad thing (all wars are) but just trying to snap you back from historical revisionism.