I’ve started to reply to this a few times but I dont think there is a “good” answer. Me personally I think strikes and boycotts are functional protest methods. They hurt innocent people just trying to survive but the difference is that they dont “just” hurt those people. They also hurt the rich at their bottom line.
The real problem I have with traffic protests is that they dont actually do anything other than alienate the protesters. If you could do mass traffic protests so that it actually made a difference to outweigh the other side of the coin then it would be different. But you would need a nationwide organized protest. Which we are nowhere close to.
Thanks that makes some sense. I think the thing is they’ve been effective in the past, and not much else has.
Maybe there has to be some sort of sacrifice to gain progress.
I guess some of the postwar progressive (economic) reforms - largely now abolished - were actually a product of democractic pressure rather than protest - but some of the other ones like anti-racism stuff still did require sacrifice and protest on top of that. And the prevailing economic conditions were quite extreme at that time.
When people have less to lose there’s less cost.
Nah, im all for eating the rich but dont punish working people with stupid protests. Protests that inconvenience people who you want to be on your side just turns them against you. If you want to lose the fight make everyone who supports you stop supporting you.
How can we ever get to the point of eating the rich if we can’t even block traffic without turning people away from the cause? The former is far more disruptive than the latter.
Mass protests in other countries have shut entire cities down. That’s what it takes. If your sentiment is the popular one (and it appears to be), then Americans will never get to a place of actual resistance. I guess people just aren’t mad enough yet.
Because blocking traffic doesnt hurt anyone except other lower class people forced to drive for their livelihood.
Lets protest the rich by punishing the poor. Next well protest the rich by licking their boots. They’ll hate that for sure… Makes no sense.
What’s your opinion on strike action ?
I’ve started to reply to this a few times but I dont think there is a “good” answer. Me personally I think strikes and boycotts are functional protest methods. They hurt innocent people just trying to survive but the difference is that they dont “just” hurt those people. They also hurt the rich at their bottom line.
The real problem I have with traffic protests is that they dont actually do anything other than alienate the protesters. If you could do mass traffic protests so that it actually made a difference to outweigh the other side of the coin then it would be different. But you would need a nationwide organized protest. Which we are nowhere close to.
Thanks that makes some sense. I think the thing is they’ve been effective in the past, and not much else has. Maybe there has to be some sort of sacrifice to gain progress.
I guess some of the postwar progressive (economic) reforms - largely now abolished - were actually a product of democractic pressure rather than protest - but some of the other ones like anti-racism stuff still did require sacrifice and protest on top of that. And the prevailing economic conditions were quite extreme at that time. When people have less to lose there’s less cost.
There will be a lot of blocked traffic if we ever bring back the guillotines. Just be honest and say you don’t want to be inconvenienced.
Nah, im all for eating the rich but dont punish working people with stupid protests. Protests that inconvenience people who you want to be on your side just turns them against you. If you want to lose the fight make everyone who supports you stop supporting you.
You do you though.
How can we ever get to the point of eating the rich if we can’t even block traffic without turning people away from the cause? The former is far more disruptive than the latter.
Mass protests in other countries have shut entire cities down. That’s what it takes. If your sentiment is the popular one (and it appears to be), then Americans will never get to a place of actual resistance. I guess people just aren’t mad enough yet.