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They don’t have money. They have debt and stock. Their money is a whole other tier of pretend that we’re too poor to have access to.
Stocks are assets are money.
The pretend we’re collectively falling for is that you can’t tax those assets because they’re somehow not really there until they want them to be.
But is lead going to be bad for the groundwater?
Liberté! égalité! fraternité!
Leeja Miller notes historically wealth accumulated by the aristocratic elite is never restored back to the public (that is, back to the state general fund, then used to sponsor roads, bridges, libraries, food programs, education, science, etc. which serve the public good) except through violence, e.g. the response of the French public after the États Généraux de 1789 )
So this, along wirh discussions of the kind of reprisal Luigi Mangioni may not have done, all tracks, considering the escalating clime in the United States.
It’d sure be nice to find a nonviolent path to
restoringcreating public-serving government and a system that regards the personhood of absolutely everyone, but we very much cannot take violence off the table, especially when it comes to restoring wealth parity.“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Nothing but good to come out of that idea.
I’d watch that.
I like it, but it needs some work to give it staying power. I say start with 1 billionaire, then once they’ve gotten a good, front-row whiff of the consequences, we start a blind bidding war for social services, a different one each episode. Whoever has the lowest bid gets a new and excruciating ending at the end of each episode. The one guy left standing at the end gives up his money for the final program, but gets to walk out alive.
Can I be the guy that pours the lead?
Switched roles Squid Game
If we’re workshopping names, Boil the Billionaire has nice alliteration.
“I’m Mark Summers and Welcome to…”
Live Audience: “BOIL!”
Live Audience: “THE!”
Live Audience: “BILLIONAIRE!”
Instead of drowning then in molten lead, we could force-feed them enriched uranium and call it Let Them Eat (Yellow) Cake.
If this makes a difference, they wouldn’t drown. They’d cook on top like eggs over easy.
What about calling it “you can’t do that on television” and
slimeboil them when they say “I do not recall” or similar while under oathI understood that reference. God, getting old sucks.
Hows your back pain?
The trick is to know where your limits are, and never do anything unusual without caution. My worst back problem so far is posture.
Online liberals will joke about eating the rich but get mad when protesters block traffic. Online liberals will joke about “the guillotine” but argue that destruction of property counts as “violence”.
Because blocking traffic doesnt hurt anyone except other lower class people forced to drive for their livelihood.
Lets protest the rich by punishing the poor. Next well protest the rich by licking their boots. They’ll hate that for sure… Makes no sense.
What’s your opinion on strike action ?
I’ve started to reply to this a few times but I dont think there is a “good” answer. Me personally I think strikes and boycotts are functional protest methods. They hurt innocent people just trying to survive but the difference is that they dont “just” hurt those people. They also hurt the rich at their bottom line.
The real problem I have with traffic protests is that they dont actually do anything other than alienate the protesters. If you could do mass traffic protests so that it actually made a difference to outweigh the other side of the coin then it would be different. But you would need a nationwide organized protest. Which we are nowhere close to.
Thanks that makes some sense. I think the thing is they’ve been effective in the past, and not much else has. Maybe there has to be some sort of sacrifice to gain progress.
I guess some of the postwar progressive (economic) reforms - largely now abolished - were actually a product of democractic pressure rather than protest - but some of the other ones like anti-racism stuff still did require sacrifice and protest on top of that. And the prevailing economic conditions were quite extreme at that time. When people have less to lose there’s less cost.
There will be a lot of blocked traffic if we ever bring back the guillotines. Just be honest and say you don’t want to be inconvenienced.
Nah, im all for eating the rich but dont punish working people with stupid protests. Protests that inconvenience people who you want to be on your side just turns them against you. If you want to lose the fight make everyone who supports you stop supporting you.
You do you though.
How can we ever get to the point of eating the rich if we can’t even block traffic without turning people away from the cause? The former is far more disruptive than the latter.
Mass protests in other countries have shut entire cities down. That’s what it takes. If your sentiment is the popular one (and it appears to be), then Americans will never get to a place of actual resistance. I guess people just aren’t mad enough yet.
Who Wants to Bury a Billionaire?
But we get the lead back, right? Otherwise that’s a bit of a waste.
I don’t want billionaire poisoning in my lead.
Might need to do a little work to clean all the carbon garbage out of there, but yeah that should be no prob.
slag
There’s no real entertainment in this…
let them fight to the death… and then let the animals in… If you want to know how to entertain MAGA folks… check out the ancient romans!
Winner gets a dog park named after them, because they were eaten by wolves released into the pit after they defeated the other billionaires
Sounds good!
“we can monetize the fall of billionaires”
and if they run out of billionaires how about landlords next
Depends what you define as landlord.
Guy who owns 2-3 duplexes in the city? Nah.
Big time landlord who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars from thousands of properties? BOIL EM!!!
Exactly. I’m living in a triplex that sold for $1.4 million last year. My rent is less than 1/3 a 30 year mortgage (with a 3.5% down payment). My old landlord set the right price. I hope my new landlord does the same.
1.4 million for a triplex??? That’s like…40k where I live.
It’s a 1970’s build too. Other triplexes are selling for way more or just less than that individually.
But this is in Seattle.
the guy who owns 2-3 duplexes can (and are incentivised) to be as cruel and inhumane as possible by the same capitalist forces.
if you ask me, rent shouldn’t be a thing. once you paid the value of the house in rent you should be able to claim it as your own.
I agree, but those who own like 2 or so houses are literally not the main problem. We can work on abolishing them at a later point, but until then we can ignore them.
I’ll concede that they aren’t the “main” problem.
but if we eliminate corporate landlords, that industry will be taken by smaller landlords and you haven’t really fixed the problem, just replaced a handful of corporations with a few thousands of landlords doing the same shit.
Its much harder to enshittify a market when you dont have a monopoly, so it does improve the situation. But yeah, longterm we definitely have to act against those too.
we could go into a very nice debate, but I think the economical forces that push for enshitification will still be there even if you break monopolies or large corporations. It will likely be slower without shareholders demanding permanent growth. but the landlord greed is still there.
Based on that definition you never stop paying. Homes values constantly go up. My dad bought a house in the 1970s. 33k.
Today the house has a value of 300k. Took him 30 years to pay off the original mortgage.
part of the reason house prices are always on the up, is because they agree considered an investment not a basic necessity. so there’s no interest in building more.
a house shouldn’t cost more than construction cost.
It still staggers me how quickly some people’s opinions on landlords changes when they see the money. A bunch of otherwise stand up fellas are now dreaming of using their retirement investments to ‘buy some houses, rent them out for the passive income,’ and another of the group who says his dream is to buy/own an apartment complex, all the while salivating at the money.
Most of us are trying to play in a game we hate… where not playing means suffering. I don’t really see just owning rental properties to be worthy of the billionaire boil. Hold them accountable for every scummy practice and ounce of harm caused by greed seeking, but not merely for renting housing out.
Yeah. We give the guy who owns 2-3 duplexes the chance to work and return the years of labor he stole from others. His sins can be still be repaid.
But if he resist. Well…
Funny, I think there was an old fella with a beard that put them in the same category
Yeah but I think if we’re gonna give credit we gotta give it to the man that put it into action.
