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What is this incredible progress? What is it measured in and why has it taken 75 years to not even be done? Glad to hear the CCP has extremely high approval rating. How are the political competitions rating in contrast and which non-state controlled institute made the polls?
You sure have a funny way of having a discussion. Rude right wingers.
Their economy is stable and growing rapidly. The citizens are enjoying modern conveniences, ie retirements, medical services, job security, the best public transportation in the world, etc. The grid is rapidly going renewable. Legislation is maturing to protect citizens. Growth across the board. The government asks for input from the people and they listen.
Your lack of knowledge isn’t an excuse for being a dick.
They’ve caused the extinction of several species. They directly contribute a huge amount of carbon and ozone degrading gases and increasingly do so every year. Their cities are flooding massively due to climate change.
Medical services aren’t a modern convenience, especially not in China which has had available healthcare there for thousands of years. Neither is the idea of retirement as the Chinese people take care of their elders.
The Chinese government does not ask for input. The government is highly fascist and everything you say is very controlled. Try being gay in China. Try expressing political ideas against the current government. Remember the COVID whistleblowers in China? Remember Tibet?
There is NO safe sky daddy otherworldly government coming to save you or protect you or anyone. These wealthy people are in it for themselves and they are lying. Xi Jing Ping doesn’t give a FUCK about you, China, his people, or socialism - he cares about power and having money. The global people are different than the leaders - THEY care about each other, their future as a collective, that things are just or fair. They are not their leaders.
Are you sure you’re not talking about the United States? You’re very confidently wrong about most of what you said. Passion is good. Just put it towards reading a decent book.
Which part am I wrong about exactly?
Yes, the same can be said of any nondemocratic government, which is most world governments including the US. The US is not democratic and has not ever been. They lie that they are for the same reason Russia and China lie that they are fair and democratic - to gaslight their people into complacency.
Most people are great. Most governments are not.
What book exactly should I read?
I don’t have much time. Let’s just say all. Go read “Blackshirts and Reds” by Michael Parenti. It’s a great starting point.
That book actually refutes your claims re: China. As in the author disagrees with your sentiments.
China isn’t the focus in that book, but it’s a wonderful book when in comes to communism and the red scare. A little preoccupied.
It’s dated. I believe it’s from 1997. China has made a lot of progress since then. Generally the problem with liberals is that they don’t understand what communism is. You’re an anarchist that gets their info from main stream media. Not too far off.
Edit: got a chance to take a gander. Saying the book refutes my claim is quite a stretch. It doesn’t touch on much more than capitalism creating less than desirable hours and wages. Not a huge surprise w capitalism, but things have improved since then.
So you haven’t even read your own source? He is explicitly critical of China and state capitalism and authoritarianism in general.
So I ask again - which book exactly should I read?
And btw, I don’t only get my info from “main stream media,” such a weird narrative you’ve concocted which also does not refute anything I’ve said or answered any questions asked.
You’re a fascist and fascist sympathizer who supports slavery and war.
And how do the things you mentioned there further the handing over of the means of production to the workers?
Since there are no free speech in China, how can the party trust that the input they receive is correct?
Valid questions. Handing over the means of production is a long term goal. They’ve said the goal is to have a full on socialist economy by 2049. Having state owned businesses is a step in the right direction. It’s always used as a scare tactic in western media, but it’s literally the goal. Large corporations are the enemy of progress. You need to have something to transfer, right?
I’m not exactly understanding what you mean by no free speech. Western media has painted China in a disgusting light making you think you’ll be disappeared for speaking up. It simply isn’t the case. Here’s a link to what I was referencing:
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/08/07/chinese-people-submit-over-3-million-suggestions-for-governments-15th-five-year-plan/