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lmfao what’s up with all these bootlickers?
They understand that the US does bad things, but have a black-and-white worldview that brings them to the conclusion that anyone who opposes the US must be heroes. They don’t understand that both sides of a conflict can be shitty.
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banned until 9/11 if thats american date’s
They call it the happiest time of the year for a reason.
Lots of people are forgiving on that date.
That mod in those countries would be made to disappear for the pronouns in his name, then tortured until he admits to raping children.
They have the pronouns to pretend to be on the left, when in reality they’re more alligned with Neo-Nazis
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get sniped bozo
i’m gonna start counting how many alts you make, you’re up to 13 already! keep those numbers coming!
What do you mean by the last part? You’re saying they’ll force him to say things that are untrue?
Yes, and Russia is quite infamous for this. There are “anti-pedophile” (read: anti-gay) groups, that torture gay men until they admit they raped kids, on camera.
And not just this, Russia also sells these torture videos (and snuff, etc) online to get blackmail on people who watch them
Ah shit. I hope the snuff porn viewers are ok
Yeah, how heroic of the Russians to sell snuff videos to people, whom they use to spread far-right propaganda! Real communism (not what anarkkkiddies want) wins again!
I mean you weren’t forced to buy them. We sent you that HD two-girls-one-cup tape. It was a fair deal. We even gave you a discount!
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Why? Why should kinks be policed? I agree nonconsensual content shouldn’t be posted online. But why is the person with a kink deserving of punishment for looking for that kink? A lot of times there is no way to know what content is consensual or not anyway - that’s why I recommend supporting individual content creators for porn.
So viewing snuff is now a reason to be enslaved permanently and forced to betray your own country with lies? What?
Like JD Vance deserves to be tarantula hawk wasp’d by Russia because he likely viewed bestiality (dolphin/woman search history teased by Russia)? Or Tucker Carlson did something weird with dogs (see oddly teased story about how a demon scratched his back but it was actually his dogs) so now he has to be Putin’s removed forever? Trump raped kids so now he has to run for office and sell out the US and rob us blind? A bunch of these men are rapists trying to avoid the prison system and still out raping left and right. Part of what keeps people in gangs are the crimes they commit together as witnesses and insurance against each other.
Like I get that these are not okay things, but 1) viewing pre-recorded content privately isn’t really harming anyone new as an isolated viewer 2) hosting and making the content is the biggest issue by far 3) we can’t destroy our own society with sexual blackmail, this shit is losing proportionality 4) actual physical abusers get less severe sentences than what some of these blackmailed people have to do.
How do you think people get kinks? Do you think kinks can be changed? Do you think there is any kind of reliable science on how kinks are formed and how people can resist engaging in them?
Why are you focusing on the individuals when it’s much more importantly an entire gigantic system? It’s like a slavery online virus infecting people. Maybe Candace Owens loves lesbian piss sex and doesn’t deserve to be forced into saying women shouldn’t work or vote.
They should be jailed like we do abusers
Again, you’re losing sight of proportionality. The punishment should fit the crime. Someone viewing illicit content should not be treated at the same level as someone making and hosting that content. Especially since it is a national security risk to do so and largely abusers and most of these people actually making and hosting the content walk freely anyway…!
Thanks for typing this out. This is exactly the shit that went through my head when they decided you need a porn license in the UK. I felt like a proper tinfoil-hat guy.
Okay, cool, just so long as you’re not calling Davel a predator
Yeah I heard those Russian deamons rape babies for breakfast
Hello lemmygrad troll, how it feels to shill for a christofascist empire? Did you trigger enough libs by destroying racist Amerikkka?
What brain rot nonsense is this? Have you ever wanted to be human instead of a cringe factory?
I don’t even get your lingo, idiot. You’re brainwashed
I was surprised they didn’t remove the thread
But then I understood
They ban everyone that accuses them of censoring, or being tankies, or speaking against china and russia, and they keep their tankies’ comments so people are convinced
Yeah, I mean, I saw this post and was kind of wondering the same thing myself. But I didn’t comment because whoooo- what a lightning rod of a post. No thanks getting that shit on my shoes.
Nobody asked for one, but I got a pretty good explanation for why this is what why this is happening.
ML’s on lemmy are predominantly of the “deprogram” variety (in reference to the deprogram podcast and r/thedeprogram being quite large on reddit), and generally they’re a laughing stock given the narratives they parrot that are so de-attached from the material reality and their various mannerisms when it comes to arguing. One of the larger narratives is that the west and western imperialism is horrible (which is true), and that whoever is opposed to it must be a force for good or something, which manifests as uncritical support for China, Russia, Iran even though they’re both imperialist bourgeoisie states too.
I see some people claim that they’re some paid Russian shills, which is wrong. They do it for free, with a genuine belief because that’s what their community says and does.
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So a “got some insight but stopped thinking at 8” case?
Yes, I know some people like this irl, and they are definitely ideological.
It’s true that most of us in the “West” are in a bubble and don’t realise just how bad the imperialism caused by our countrymen has been, and continues to be. Like, we fuck the rest of the world so hard, we just call it economics.
I don’t have any answers on how to solve that, unfortch. I’m just a helpless citizen of the empire watching my surplus income go to inflicting starvation on children before they get shot in the stomach…
Having a mandatory “these government/nations are above criticism” stance is just nationalist fascism, no different to MAGA fascism.
If a nation can’t be criticised or questioned, it can’t be improved, and is dead in some serious way. .ml users should be embarrassed for staying there. The standards you walk past are the ones you accept.
Poor dude was new and just didn’t know what was going on, or even the atmosphere where they posted the question. Lmao I really need to migrate a piefed instance stat.
This is precisely why more instances should
defenddefed .mlThey make the onboarding experience shitty for new users who haven’t built up some immunity to tankie brain rot
Lemmy.cafe does this :)
defend -> defed*?
This is one of many reasons I have autocorrect off. lol
Yup
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Pixelfedisn’t really a drop in replacementEdit:Piefed isn’t Pixelfed
Piefed and Pixelfed are different projects, with Piefed being very much a lemmy alternative, whereas Pixelfed is similar to Instagram.
Oh
Nobody said anything about pixelfed…?
you guys have no idea how much money goes towards the russian propaganda machine
Seriously, BRICS overall, with slave labor factored in (because most bots are slaves, not computers, NPR did a story on it), and all the illegal and illicit videos put/hosted online for blackmail, plus the crypto scams and romance scams, has to be in the trillions. It’s literally a new type of warfare more deadly than drones.
No. How much?
putin literally funds it, billions on this troll farms. plus he funds other right wing groups or media as well.
Lmao I saw that post a bit ago and was like “hah yep ban incoming 😬”
Gotta love the end date, too: 9/11 - like, really?!?
It probably was a 1 month ban (30 days) so just an unfortunate coincidence
You hang out on lemmyml?
That place is toxic
I lurk mostly
Sweet, yet another instance to block
You’ll notice that it’s still .ml making questionable decisions.
Edit: noticed you’ve only been here for 4 months. Lemmygrad and hexbear are also worth blocking
It should be mentioned that several instances has already defederated from lemmygrad and hexbear.
Without checking, no shot blahaj federates with those. Still a good edit note for instances that do though.
Found myself curious enough to check.
As of this very moment, lemmygrad [dot] ml and hexbear [dot] net are showing on lemmy.blahaj.zone’s blocked instances list. Lemmy [dot] ml is not.
Edit: typo and no tankie hyperlinks.
can confirm, hexbear and grad are inaccessible from here but .ml federates just fine
(imo im fine with this, they have their issues obv but so does .world, and blocking either one cuts you off from a ton of communities and users)
But, when enough people are cut from the fascist instances’ communities, then
- people are more motivated to found alternative communities elsewhere and
- the people admining the communities are more likely to move to some decent instance.
Agreed. I generally don’t mind .ml.
block the triad, .ml, hexbear, lemmygrad. also block politics.world too, but not the instance.
libs passing up the opportunity to call it a “troika” is just sad
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Declaring a boycott after you’ve been banned from a community is certainly a vibe.
Well the reason for the boycott is partially due to the nonsensical bans
Yeah I was reading something about gaza, merely asked about the holodmor and the uygur, ya know, very normal conversation openers, and Boom, ban.
It hurt my feelies. We should really defederate from those extremists
Genuine question:
Why is this getting downvoted?
Because Antiyanks is a troll who makes hundreds of accounts a week. I appreciate him boosting this community number’s dramatically, but everything finds him annoying
The US coordinated the disinformation campaign, and has been for a very long time.
Mental illness.
Let’s hope one you end in a russian interment camp.
The camps are in the country full of freedom. So much freedom, all of it, basically.
Did you notice that the US was not involved in this conversation at all until @Subdivide6857@midwest.social brought it up? That the US is in fact entirely irrelevant to this discussion of blatant censorship and partisanship on Lemmy.ml?
This is a perfectly clear and obvious example of the whataboutism game that tankies love to play. This user should only be ridiculed for their transparent attempts at distraction and deflection. Otherwise, do not engage.
It’s entirely relevant that the rest of the lemmyverse is dominated and astroturfed by zionist dumbocrats
And what does any of that have to do with the original post?
Show me one example of a Zionist opinion with more upvotes than downvotes on Lemmy.
Huh, you’re right. What the hell is going on here.
Lmao! I get it, goat keeps banning your alts all the time, must be really frustrating for ya. Guess that makes them a Zionist in your delusional mind.
You bet, bud. The US is the reason for the disinformation campaign. The US is always involved in the imperialist game. That’s not whataboutism. You have these feelings due to the US. It’s not even difficult to sift through the shit. You’re lazy.
You bet, bud. The US is the reason for the disinformation campaign.
Spicy take! Let’s see the damning evidence, this’ll be tasty!
The US is always involved in the imperialist game.
Yes, that’s the spicy take, repeated.
That’s not whataboutism. You have these feelings due to the US. It’s not even difficult to sift through the shit. You’re lazy.
???
If you happen to be on a troll farm in Russia, you’re in grave danger of being sent to the front, if you can’t pull your propaganda game together.
You are awful at this.
The U.S is absolutely involved in imperialism. That shouldn’t be a spicy take whatsoever.
The U.S is absolutely involved in imperialism. That shouldn’t be a spicy take whatsoever.
and THeREfORe, tankies are good!
I’ve got news for you sunshine. As horrific and imperialist as the US is, you have zero capacity to benefit from the contrast effect.
You don’t get it. If lemmy.ml, the clowns who run it, and their flying monkeys are the de facto voice of your cause on social media, you’re fucked.
No. Tankies just support the other empire.
There’s so much to cite.
There’s plenty in here though.
Ask Dessalines what they think about trans people
huh?? source?
Check the pinned posts of this community
What is this, whataboutism?
Nah not going to deny the US has engaged in imperialism for as long as they’ve been capable of it, but your source is an asshole.
You’re definitely in danger of being sent to the front.
Sources are cited. Don’t like it?
You haven’t cited any sources. You have linked to your own mod. You guys are so far up your own assholes it is almost unbelievable.
Sources are cited. Don’t like it?
Your content is crap, but who cares.
I’m stating that you’re fucking awful at boosting your cause.
As in, you inflict direct harm to your cause, through your absolute crap delivery.
Worst. Ambassador. Ever.
Watch the world-famous mental gymnast as they attempt to perform a complete mid-air double-backflip while walking the titerope of prescribed ideology!
Wonder in amazement as they spiral ever downward into the pit of whataboutism!
See them engage in direct ad hominem attacks!
Laugh at their foibles as they recite CCP propaganda for your entertainment!
As not an american (there are quite a few of us) I find it extra funny with new layers of silly. Like I am somehow supposed to lose if america is mocked? Like if your not down with the CCP your waving a small american flag?
Making the whataboutisum comment attacking the usa is great as well since it demonstrates a form of american exceptionalism that they think everyone also believes in. And if they want to refute that they will have to defend america…
Gold.
Can you imagine having an entire country living rent-free in your head, all the time?
I think you meant to say clown not lazy
Russia and China, on the other hand? Entirely straightforward and transparent in their reporting. No disinformation campaigns there, no sir.
i think russia takes the #1 in the aggressive propaganda platforms out there, they devote significant resources to do it too. hence why you see the sudden rise of right wing governments all over the world, the porn bans, age verfication.
One of the lines I see repeated with every business cycle is “China is lying about their economic data”. Like, quarter after quarter, year after year, decade after decade.
At some point, you have to engage in a bit of meta-criticism. Why do you believe an enemy nation-state is secretly failing when only the lay residents of the rival power seem to be aware of it? What is your crystal ball and how is it showing information that’s more reliable than the Goldman Sachs trading desk or the IMF analytics department?
So much of the time it seems like Yeomni Park is the source for every American’s understanding of the outside world. And anyone who asserts a contrary view must be a shill, a bot, or a political extremist.
I don’t think clickbait youtube videos are a fair measure of American media reporting on China. Youtube is largely random users shouting into the void. They’re going to frequently exaggerate or otherwise spread misinformation on any subject for attention or even simple ignorance. There’s little to suggest it’s controlled propaganda considering you’ll likely find much more conspiracy critical of the American government than China’s.
Since you seem to have a view different than most people here, do you trust China’s reporting on itself more than that of reputable western media? If so, why?
do you trust China’s reporting on itself more than that of reputable western media?
I trust their reporting when it aligns with regional business news coverage and correlating economic data.
I don’t casually dismiss it as propaganda any more than I would dismiss the BLS senior leadership in the states.
There’s little to suggest it’s controlled propaganda considering you’ll likely find much more conspiracy critical of the American government than China’s.
YouTube has a pattern of recommending right-leaning and Christian videos, even to users who haven’t previously interacted with that kind of content, according to a recent study of the platform’s suggestions to users.
Contrary view isn’t purely praise and refused to accept the weakness of the country, which is the perspective you and the tankie definitely possessed. We’re just stating the obvious and calling a shill shill.
I occasionally shit on china while also praise some of their aspect, i do it the same way for all the country.
Ehh, I guess you can lean into the capitalist garbage if you’d like. The US is having a swell time.
Ah, yes, Russia and China are indeed bastions of anti-capitalism.
China’s working towards something nice while the EU and the US scream towards fascism. It’s the next stage of liberalism. It’s time to celebrate , you’ve made it to the end goal, again.
Something nice? Does Taiwan and Hong Kong feel that way? The Uyghers? How about the nations who rely on the South China Sea?
How about we the people of the world say no to slavery, no to genocide, and no to war, no matter what country tries to justify and use it? Stop being tricked into harming yourself
You’re a propaganda machine. Look at you go.
I accept your loss due to an inability to form a good faith argument.
Ps, there is no anarchist propaganda machine. Lol. Lmfao.
Something nice
It’s just state capitalism.
That is what they’ve achieved, not what they’re working towards. You’re doing a little cherry picking. It’s disingenuous.
So what are they actually working toward?
It’s not cherry picking to look at the actual state of affairs. Talk is cheap
China’s working towards something nice
You just provided me with the laugh of the day.
lmao they are definittely having problems, it just not regularly represented in the news, because they suppress it. thier population issues, the evergrande,etc.
Is this what you’re seeing on MSNBC? Or is it one of the other billionaire owned western media sources?
I’m seeing it with my own eyes.
something nice
For everyone, right?
That is what socialism is, everyone.
You too can work in 996 heaven, just mind the suicide nets.
The workers don’t own the means of production.
Real socialism is stateless, whn will china give the mean of production to the people?
more significant damage was done by russian disinformation/misinformation, through various media and people and grifters, get out of your high horse.
Post-Soviet Russia is the fruit of the US labor. They’re no longer commies.
And it is funny that tankies don’t seem to realise that.
Huh?? That’s what the “tankies” keep harping on about to show the failure of capitalism. The destruction that followed Gorbachevs coup and the balkanisation are frequently cited to contrast communism and capitalism.
The reason Russia is a shithole is because of westernization. I feel you’re having a different time keeping up.
russia as a constitutional monarchy: shithole
russia as a communist state: shithole
russia as a democracy: shithole
…
I’m starting to think that the problem is russia itself and not the government type.
You may enjoy this
Ah yes it’s genetics. Russians are bad people. What do u mean I’m racist?
You could go with factors like culture, geopolitics, colonialism, centralization, but all you can think of is a strawman about “race”. Weak, dude.
How?
You need to be more specific. What are you asking?
How is Russia a shithole because of westernisation?
This is Russian Disinformation. And anything that suggests otherwise is also Russian Disinformation. And if you argue with me you’re a Russian Bot. And don’t even think about downvoting. You’ll only make me wave my American Flag harder while singing the national anthem louder.
A world without whataboutism would certainly be a world where we heard less from tankies like you.
