todd, you’ve done it again

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    7 天前

    severe input lag and a huge 53GB file size despite being capped at 30FPS

    I’m not sure how being capped at 30 FPS should change any of those. Probably they went too ambitious with texture resolutions, etc. Which explains 53 GB AND the need to cap it at 30 FPS. And 30 FPS probably has MORE input lag than 60 FPS as most things only get polled every 33.333 ms instead of 16.666 (both repeating of course)

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    9 天前

    Wasn’t this already on the first Switch? How did you fuck this up? It was already done.

    Honestly, I’m kinda over the Switch 2 at this point. All of the games that have come out for it look empty and soulless, and there hasn’t been anything to make me truly want to spend $500 on another piece of kit. They’ve had long enough to put out some quality, and the promise of “$80 for a game ensures we can continue to deliver quality” is just the corporate bullshit we all knew it was. This is the WiiU all over again.

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      9 天前

      It’s frustrating that a small number of really good franchises are locked into the Nintendo bullshit business model.

      Xenoblade Chronicles, Zelda, Mario, and a couple of other series running on Steam Deck without the emulation nonsense would make me tremendously happy.

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        9 天前

        wanna know something funny? I emulate totk on my steam deck. I stopped playing it on original switch because the load times on steam deck are speedy compared to on original switch.

        I’m sure Totk runs fine on switch 2 if you pay 25 bucks for extra frames on a game you already paid 70 dollars for. but i don’t want to buy a console just for that.

        but I do wish there was a future where nintendo would allow it on different platforms.

        they won’t. ever. but it’d be cool.

        • MightyThistle 🌺♀️@lemmy.world
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          8 天前

          Switch 1 emulators have come a long way honestly. Prior to my GPU reaching the age where it overheats easily I could run TOTK at 50 fps in some areas at FSR using framerate unlocking mods and my specs are fairly outdated. Obviously in more crowded areas the framerate would drop but you have to also consider I was using Yuzu which has been discontinued. There’s newer emulators which are much better and continue to be updated

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            8 天前

            …my GPU reaching the age where it overheats easily…

            That’s not some sort of natural aging process; that’s you failing to do maintenance. Clean out the dust and/or replace the thermal paste.

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            8 天前

            I was throwing numbers out. I couldn’t remember what the price to play a game you already own on a device you just spent 500 bucks on was.

            any dollar amount is absurd, frankly. well, imho anyway.

      • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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        9 天前

        Zelda and Mario are first party, so I get that, but Xenoblade kills me. I need a rerelease of Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Xenoblade on PC.

      • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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        8 天前

        The xenoblade game for the switch 1 was okay but the way all the women were depicted was fucking creepy and weird

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          8 天前

          The worst part is, I consider myself a bit of a gooner; I like alluring, attractive characters. But that was meant to be a story-based game, and yet it designed so many jokes around attractive women dressing in rags, being clueless, easily offended, and seemed to design the story around an intense contact between a shonen hero and a large-breasted woman.

          At least in something like Stellar Blade, they evade the subject because they know there’s nothing constructive to say.

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          8 天前

          I absolutely love XC1 and 3, and I enjoy XCX for everything that’s not its story, and…

          Yeah I totally agree with you. XC2 is cursed on many levels. It’s the one I just can’t replay and it’s mainly because of its characters and degenerate quirks. You’ve played the worst game of the series by far.

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            8 天前

            It was fun. I never finished it but I did more or less enjoy what I played.

            But yeah. Cursed is a good word for many of the design choices

        • Nate Cox@programming.dev
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          8 天前

          3 mostly solved this, it was way more reasonable. 2 was a great game with fantastic voice acting that was really diminished by the character models.

        • octobob@lemmy.ml
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          7 天前

          Both BOTW and TOTK are some of the most well optimized games ever made. It’s truly wild that both those games can be played on what’s basically a suped up smart phone from 2016 and look and play as well as they do.

          Unless you’re talking about everything else in the game, idk

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            7 天前

            I was thinking of it not being the same story over and over again for 25 years

            I think mask and oracle of ages/seasons was the last time they tried something interesting

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        9 天前

        Meh most work on emulation. The only thing going legal would do is ease of use (maybe) and more $$ for nintendo.

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          8 天前

          Emulation isn’t illegal if you own the game, and even if you don’t they have to prove you never bought it.

          The only reason Nintendo could go after the emulators they did was because those companies were charging money for a product using Nintendo’s proprietary encryption key. They can’t touch the open source ones (yet).

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 天前

      I quit Nintendo ages ago. As a company, they’re assholes. Then they want to charge $50 for a game that’s 5 years old and 2 generations behind in graphics. Just can’t hold a candle to PC or even the other consoles. The only thing they have left is like 4 game IP’s

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        8 天前

        They just dropped a very mediocre Metroid title, and Mario Kart was middling at best, so they are down two franchises this generation already. If they make another clone of BotW then they are gonna be down a third, and they’ll have to make it up with Mario, but Donkey Kong didn’t inspire hope on that front, so I’m not sure what I have to look forward to…

        Oh. Pokemon… Well, I’m not holding out hope there either after Scarlet/Violet.

        • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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          8 天前

          I haven’t really enjoyed pokemon for quite some time now. It started off as a fun casual rps style game with a simple and entertaining story to follow. Then they kept adding more complexity to it and it just kinda fell off for me.

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              8 天前

              I’m on my second playthrough, this time with my kids. Didn’t think I needed another playthrough but I’m having fun. 😅 At one point I’ll boot up TotK for the first time since buying it on release day. 😎

        • MrQuallzin@lemmy.world
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          8 天前

          Pokémon Z-A has honestly been one of the most fun Pokémon games I’ve played in a loooooooooooooooooooong time

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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      8 天前

      Nintendo has made it extremely easy to boycott the Switch 2 so far. They’re hell-bent on releasing mid new games and tons of Switch 2 versions of Switch 1 games and acting as if they’re new. I’m a big fan of Nintendo’s games (well, I was, at this point) and the only exclusive Switch 2 one I have any interest in is Donkey Kong Bananza after the console being out for 6 months. That’s abysmal. At this rate there will only be a few Switch 2 games released over its entire lifespan that I’ll even want to bother emulating eventually.

    • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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      9 天前

      Feels like the best meta for console purchasing is to only buy every other gen. I imagine the Sw2 is a blast for someone who didn’t have the 1 and now gets to play all those games at an improved quality/framerate

    • Vogi@piefed.social
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      7 天前

      I was over the switch 2 when i saw the the bare switch OS only had minor changes. Consoles are PCs without choice, but that is actually fine by me if they provide a fun experience not only in but outside of games as well.

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      8 天前

      Sell product based on IP and brand name while delivering the bare minimum of product. Nintendo’s MO for 10+ years now

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    9 天前

    If you haven’t already bought a switch 2, just get a Steam Deck if you want another handheld.

    Valve also won’t remotely brick your entire device if they think you got an unlicensed cartridge.

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      8 天前

      The year is 2064. The world outside is fire and riots.

      A new life is brought into the world, the hospital lights flicker. The doctor, dirty and worn out, pushes the new parents a form on a battered clipboard.

      “Congratulations to you both, now please sign this release to bring your baby home, but not before you designate which formats of Skyrim your child will inherit, please understand this is not optional, and we no longer take Bitcoin to pay the mandatory $60 Skyrim Fee, so please use cash, credit or ration cards to pay.”

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      8 天前

      How is this Nintendo’s fault lol

      The Switch 2 could absolutely handle Skyrim at 60fps if not 120, it’s not their fault Bethesda half-assed the port.

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      8 天前

      Lots of Switch 2 ports have had problemd. My MIL had to stop playing Tales From the Shire because it kept wiping her progress.

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      7 天前

      They really do have a habit of just barely making it work on every platform, no matter how powerful.

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    damn near 2026 and new releases are still shipping with a 30hz target lmao

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      The labor cost though, it’s at an all time lo… Wait no that’s gone up… What are they even doing?

      Something like business metrics being measured in board salary $/frame-hour?

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    Why is everyone bashing Nintendo for this? I mean I get it that Nintendo is not to be liked, but this is clearly Bethesda’s fault. They did a fast and cheap port and failed hard with it.

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    You can install this game as a multiplayer RPG suite with cloth physics, frame generation, and a decade of fan content pushing that medieval engine to do things that shouldn’t even be possible.

    But somebody out there still wants to buy it in potato.jpeg resolution and run it on a kid toy

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      9 天前

      multiplayer RPG suite

      Are you talking about Skyrim Together? How’s MP work now?

      I’ve been out of the modding scene forever, and last I heard there was no “massively” multiplayer and only a coop demo.

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        Not “massive” at all. But it’s not a demo anymore. I haven’t looked under the hood in a while since back when it first came out but it used to just create NPC’s mirroring your other players actions. That was a long time ago though, I can’t imagine it working this well still using that method

        Edit: Here is the list of features, looks like it’s up to 8 people now. But I think it probably does still use that old method, based on the way this is all described

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      9 天前

      Let’s not push the myth here that over dependence on LLMs is the only source of bad code. In the past it’s almost always been management constraints, probably the case here, too.

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      8 天前

      It’s Bethesda we’re talking about. They can definitely reach that level of incompetence without AI being involved.