Guys, MacOS isn’t everybody’s taste, especially now. But it does do what it’s trying to do. Windows isn’t succeeding at anything it’s trying to do.
Vibecode will do that to you.
I haven’t coded in years and wanted to pick up python finally. I’m using ChatGPT to demonstrate all the wrong answers to problems and I have to admit it’s a great learning tool for an unexpected reason.
It is productively wrong. All the time. But by screwing with it I can learn why things do or do not work. It does not give me an answer direct but instead guides me through all the possible ways to screw things up and I can learn from that.
I haven’t coded since C++ and Java in high school outside some arduino shit I did for a bit in between and chatGPT has been great and bringing those skills back from cold storage in my brain.
But as far as put in question, get response it’s obviously terrible.
This kind of demonstrates the bigger problem though. Business majors are making decisions and not engineers. And business majors are fucking stupid outside their element.
MBAs do like to think they know everything just because they played the BSG in their senior year.
Gentoo is both Chad and Schizo 🧐
they arent mutually exclusive
And Gentoo’s not schizo…
Nor are the rest on that tier… except the one. We all know which one.
honestly based categorization
MacOS is worlds better than Windows, it’s not even close.
Kali Linux as Chad OS suggests this list is as much meme as truth so I wouldn’t worry about the rankings.
Hell, Mac OS is even a certified UNIX operating system, something that even Linux (or GNU+Linux) can’t say.
It’s still a non-FOSS OS which is the real reason it sucks, but it’s a lot better than a lot of people seem to think. Whereas Windows just plain sucks on a usability level too, not just the licensing.
I read a deep dive into the macos “certified UNIX” thing and it’s a scam. I dont remember the details but the certification is obtained only through a set of testing exceptions. The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.
As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience. It’s not quite as bad as windows, but macos is not the “user friendly, it (mostly) just works and gets out of your way” os it used to be.
I’m full time Linux now and when I have to use macos or windows I cannot believe how user hostile they both are.
Linux is far from perfect, but at least I control my system/os.
The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.
Could be that they certified the Darwin kernel, but not the commercial offering?
I found the article I read about this, which was published a year ago on OSnews. Here’s the link
As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience.
I haven’t really used Mac OS since Mountain Lion, so that makes me sad to hear, but I’m not really surprised.
Oh hey. You’re me! I’ve historically been a very loyal Mac user who played with Linux here and there, but I’ve been full time Linux for the past few two years.
Sibling from another mother! Tried it a few times over the years here and there just like you, until going full time.
Also got a full homelab going and have been learning python.
The UNIX certification is arbitrary and useless. Windows 11 could get it if they paid for it.
UNIX is irrelevant now anyway. Linux has taken its place, and every commercial UNIX (except for MacOS I guess) is at end of life or in maintenance mode now. They only still exist for a handful of applications that require decades of backwards compatibility.PLEASE! PLEASE UNIVERSE! BRING BACK IRIX!
(and more than just nekoware… I mean a full, fully-FOSS, IRIX.)
*\dreamer*
Yeah ever since that incident at Jurassic Park, UNIX has been in decline.
I know this.
However good it is and however many certificates it has i personally agree with the dogshit classification. It won’t install on any of about 8 computers in my house, including one I bought from apple. Literally unusable to me for the last 10ish years. Windows would probably install on one or two of them I think, so I’ll give it a few hypothetical points for usability for that.
Both got the deal with the devil clauses in their end user agreements, right? That’s bad enough it does not even matter who’s better or worse after that. That’s already bad enough to not be fit to use.
Well it was. It’s got a major update recently which ruined everything. Still better than Windows tho xD
Cool and good 😎
how is windows above macos lol
Because at least you can do gaming on Windows lol
MacOS has no reason to exist.
If you are ok running corporate software just use windows with its huge array of software and compatibility with pretty much everything.
If you want to be cool and different and have problems with software and hardware compatibility run Linux.
MacOS is the Porsche Panamera of operating systems. People just have it because it matches their 911/iThing
MacOS does have a reason to exist. It helps people get rid of those pesky thousands of dollars over-bloating their bank account every 5 years when they are told their Mac is obsolete.
Apple’s chips on the other hand are very nice.
Hi. Bazzite user here and I insist on proper representation. Please add it to the dogshit tier. Thanks.
don’t say manjaro could be better.
- it works… most of the time until it doesn’t
- it looks nice … until you update something and it breaks
- it has many features… which you don’t need by default
- it can be customized easily… if you just want basics
- it is stable… until you update something
but i love it and use it daily
manjaro is terrible, but im glad youre having a good experience.
The distributions within the openSUSE project are, in my opinion, the most advanced and complete Linux distributions. They offer tools such as btrfs+snapper, openQA, Secure-boot, Firewall, Yast (Myrlyn+Agama), etc. as soon as the system is installed. No other Linux distribution offers all of this configured immediately after installing the system. In my opinion, the openSUSE project is at the highest level of Linux, offering solutions for most users, fixed distributions such as Leap, rolling distributions such as Tumbleweed, immutable distributions such as Kalpa, etc.
Yeah.
I was not wrong for having suse be my os when I made the leap as a windows refugee in late 2003. It’d still be a great choice for windows refugees these days. Perhaps even the best choice.
You highlight why, very well.
OpenSUSE (and even the corporate version) deserve more praise. They seemed to get out-marketed by Ubuntu. But did not get beat for a better OS.
Preach!
As a void enjoyer, i’m very happy it was included at all because it never seems to be. The fact it ranks so highly is the cherry on top!
OP even threw garuda in there. pretty cool
Void’s for sure one of the undersung heroes of the distrosphere.
It’s my first go-to.
So very surprising, as it has been since it was still new, how well stocked it is. And so very reliable, to not have stupid package names. It’s a little touch I very much appreciate.
Big love to voidlinux.
Respect, that it makes it to top tier.
Arch should be in its own tier: BTW
Yeah: the self-own tier
Sorry, I declare NixOS being in its own tier, actually.
My proposed image for the tier:
I’m ok with almost everything there except Debian. And I’m not even running Debian these days.
There’s nothing super or complicated about it that would make it Chad. It just works out of the box with non-free software.
If this was an S-Tier, I’d agree, but Chat tier connotates there’s some reason normal users would not run it.
Their biggest failure is the failure to market.
Lol Gentoo over here in two categories
Scitzo-chad gentoo
I think the double input is because while ysing gentoo you are either a szchizo or a chad… there is no in between. Cant confirm, i’m apparently a chad… and a server according to the rest of the community
Is that GNU at the bottom? If so, bro, this dude don’t get it.
Have you tried to actually use GNU/Hurd?
I have.
It was fine.
This was way back around 2014 iirc.
Yeah, that’s why it belongs next to Arch
Arch is high skill floor high skill ceiling. Once you get good you can do really cool things with it. GNU/Herd is high skill floor low skill ceiling. If you’re really good and practice really hard, eventually you’ll be able to do things that could have been easier achieved with literally anything else.
Some people code recreationally in Malbolge and Befunge
yes in a vm, specificly Debian GNU/hurd, works suprisingly, main issues is lack of hardware support, for usage as a vm guest, I would say it is already better than half of the BSDs
Similar experience.
Except, props to the BSDs (especially OpenBSD), for being so much more coherent systems, as perhaps seen best (or at least easiest) in its man pages.
But then that is not the logo of Hurd, and Hurd is not the point of GNU
It’s kinda part of the original point… to make a complete free software operating system…
Still, was nice that the Linux kernel came along to make things easier than the more advanced approach Hurd was taking.
Linux Libre + GNU, and got the point of GNU none the less. :)
Doesn’t have Hannah Montana Linux on the list so we know this guys opinion is trash smh
Maybe it is so high above every other category it didn’t fit into the chart
That has to be it.
The super secret super chad level above.
I don’t understand the hate for MacOS or Ubuntu frankly. Windows was fine until they stopped making “features” opt in. Fedora has been toying with adding AI, and my experiences with Arch have been subpar for my needs. I’m kinda at the point in my life where I don’t care as long as the OS works. They’re all so similar at the end of the day, they help me do the websites, work tools and vidya gaems.
