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          All billionaires but not all CEOs

          Edit: I have my own LLC but I don’t have any employees. I could, technically, call myself a CEO and that would be valid. Should I be hanged?

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            Should I be hanged?

            Only if you really want to be. Maybe you’re into that? You should probably use a buddy system, though.

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            Same for me, I’m with you

            No idea, why I should be hanged, because the only person I’m abusing is myself…

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            This is easy.

            Do you call yourself a CEO? If yes, then yes. If no, then no. 👍

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              I hope you don’t actually believe that.

              Not that it matters but I don’t. My parents got me a little plaque for my desk that says “ramenshamen, <LLC name>, CEO” which is kinda fun but I’m just a guy. I don’t walk around introducing myself as a CEO of a company where I’m the only employee.

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                I don’t think you are really grasping how much people hate anyone even slightly associated with ceos.

                Even if you just play act as them.

                Not saying you’re a bad person, but maybe distance yourself from the embodiment of parasitism.

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          I could MAYBE be talked into sparing all folks on social media claiming to be the CEOs of the side hustle. And I guess Gaben but he has to get rid of his yacht(s?) first

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            Personally I don’t care how many yacts you have, but meddle in my government, behave like an aristocrat, try to surveil and manipulate all the proles, and I am not a happy camper. Very salty.

            I think there ought to be a hard cap on wealth from 30mil net worth to somewhere around 250mil. Per person. Double that per family. The actual net worth number should be INDEXED to median (not average) wealth and income, cost of living, etc. And it should be determined democratically.

            If we catch someone speeding, first offence just surrender all the wealth over the max wealth limit. Second offence? Capital punishment without the possibility of a pardon, and limited chances to appeal. This can’t be treated like any other crime. Going over the wealth limit shound be considered treason.

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    There’s actually a lot of political solidarity about mass surveillance. Go to the grimiest YouTube comment section and you’ll see the same kind of vitriol against Palantir et al that you would here.

    They just think it serves the globalhomo socialist cabal trying to take over the US and not the fascist coup that already has taken over the US.

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        i would even say with enough time and deprogramming we can make them suck a lot less than they do. perhaps it’s true though that there can never be full recovery. but i think part of achieving class consciousness is having the faith to put in the effort in believing that better things are possible and that humans are neither inherently good nor inherently evil, but rather products of their environment

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          I think once you’re hardened to exterior influence by thought terminating mechanisms there’s nothing left to save, but letting them kill their masters first seems prudent.

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          I disagree about one part. I do believe humans are inherently good. Sure, there are some people who are neuro-divergent that this doesn’t apply to (though this doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of it, it just might not be inherent). Everyone else though I think are good. That’s how we evolved.

          They might not do good because they’re mislead. That’s why many of the conservative arguments are still made with a moral framework, like “think of the children/women” even though that’s just a very thin veil. That’s all it takes sometimes for people to do the wrong thing because they believe, without question, that they’re doing something good.

          I think that’s part of why religion is bad. It isn’t just because organized religion has evil people, but that religion is based on the concept of not questioning things. A lot of these people just believe they’re doing good without considering if it’s actually the right thing.

          Edit: I’m surprised this is being downvoted. In case it’s the neuro-divergent thing, I am. It isn’t saying all aren’t inherently good, but narcissists aren’t. Their brain doesn’t function in a way that lets them have empathy, so they aren’t inherently good, but can be with effort.

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    This is the town that put up a speed camera on the highway around 2012 and someone took a shotgun to it. The authorities fixed the camera and someone shot it again.

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    For fucks sake… don’t scapegoat this 1 person.

    Every township, every county, and every state government is enabling it. Flock just doesn’t go around putting up cameras for charity. They are doing it because your governments are paying them for it.

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      Don’t scapegoat them, but also don’t let them off the hook. Don’t let them feel too comfortable about being openly evil. People being comfortable about being openly evil is how bad things happen.

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    Best believe this backlash is already factored into Flock’s equations

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          They’re… Crazy is a vast often thought terminating simplification, but I do think it applies to many of them. Not what I mean.

          I mean psychological damage from excessive hard-slop yes-man culture and chatbot use. Things that would ruin any of us.

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            I wouldn’t deny the damage caused by chatbot use, nor would I deny there being a culture of yes-men. These things are symptoms though, not causes. The question I think is important is “why are people this way?” and I don’t believe it can really be sufficiently answered by considering individual psychology or looking at small scale workplace dynamics.

            The US government, federal and local, is much better at unifying data streams at this point time than it ever was. Flock came to fill the hole. Of course you’re going to get yes-men when such a big opportunity presents itself.

            Arms manufacturing is also deeply unpopular. Arms manufacturers know this. They still do what they are doing fully aware about every implication, no culture of yes men needed in my opinion.

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        Arrogance has little to do with making these strategic considerations. If anything arrogance is a strategy that comes from dealing with things like backlash etc. The cause is not arrogant people, or people lacking self awareness because of arrogance. It’s simple economics in a way.

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          It is arrogance in not thinking they have to fear the people, or the government.

          It’s the same reason our politicians are now openly corrupt.

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            the people

            Who exactly is “the people”? What constitutes “the people”? Aren’t the bosses part of “the people”?

            the government

            Are they not the government?

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    this framing is so stupid to me

    An East Tennessee county commissioner sparked controversy after suggesting during a public workshop that Flock CEO Garret Langley should be hanged for treason.

    Excuse me? The real controversy is the nation-wide surveillance network used to track everyone’s movements. The commissioner’s response seems to be very measured in light of that fact.

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    “X company has annoucned new safeguards to _______ (common sense concerns anyone not trying to speedrun Demolition Man would have forseen).”

    Do they not realize this makes them confirmed to be so much worse than the average person thinks and exactly what everyone who hates them despises? They don’t give a fuck about the rights of anyone they are violating and never have from the start which is why any of this could happen to begin with.

    Fuck Flock.

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    Traditional conservatives don’t like it, the problem is that most of the parties that call themselves conservative or liberal (in US terminology or the equivalent terms in other countries) are actually all just right wing authoritarian parties with slightly different tactics to convince people to support them. Authoritarianism needs to control the narratives and to do that have an easy way to crack down on dissenters. Heck the term “rednecks” used to originally refer to left wing, labor rights activists. They just got manipulated into becoming sheep for the far right using single issue politics.

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    There’s a prison nearby.

    There are not flock cameras outside the prison or anywhere near it.

    That should tell you everything you need to know.