• Doom@lemmy.world
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    18 minutes ago

    I mean there are bees vomiting. Bees do spin around. And there is a centrifuge. This is pretty close to true.

    • rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net
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      4 hours ago

      And replace the honey with sugar water and they become deficient. And also they outcompete native bee populations, causing naturally occuring pollinators to decline

    • decolo@piefed.social
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      7 hours ago

      That’s shitty. I wonder how common this is for non-factory beekeeping, I can think of several ways this could cause significant problems for the bees above and beyond the obvious one.

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        6 hours ago

        As someone who has worked with bees, not common. Most beekeepers should be keeping the queen there by maintaining the correct amount of honey store for hive size. There are queen excluder boxes you can use to protect/encourage new queens to storm, etc etc etc

        I’d never heard of wing clipping. That would be terrible. I’m frankly against using smoke with bees and have worked with a few people who also feel the same way. Buy local

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          6 hours ago

          I’m frankly against using smoke with bees and have worked with a few people who also feel the same way. Buy local

          I feel like buying local is good for various other reasons, but that it doesn’t necessarily guarantee better beekeeping practices. Maybe there ought to be some kind of “humane beekeeping” certification program.

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        Yes, it is shitty. So are most things we do to other creatures on earth to prioritize our own survival and well being.

        It was only somewhat recently in human history that we’ve moved past the point of needing these systems to survive. Now things like veganism have few to little downsides, except that we’re entrenched in the way we used to do things.

  • TomMasz@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    It’s funny how people can believe something like that despite there being a thing called “the Internet” where you can easily look up stuff (and where they made that comment). They get some points for caring about bees, though.

  • LSNLDN@slrpnk.net
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    7 hours ago

    If only that was the reality and not that they decimate the native pollinator population causing massive problems and serious implications for the future

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      1 hour ago

      All that, plus honey is just kinda mid. Like, most people just eat it because it seems “healthier” than pure sugar, but nutritionally there’s very little difference (yes, honey is good at killing bacteria and fungi, but that doesn’t really matter when you digest it). Just replacing it with Agave Syrup is barely an inconvenience and solves so many environmental problems.

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        1 hour ago

        Calls honey mid and unsustainable, supports agave syrup in the same breath. Moving the environmental problems from your neighborhood to Oaxaca is not solving them.

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      7 hours ago

      Well they do vomit it, just without human assistance. FWIW though, a honeybee produces about a single teaspoon in its whole life, and also tame honeybee colonies tend to psuh out natural honeybee populations, so whether it’s ethical to eat honey or not is a fair question.

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        7 hours ago

        FWIW though, a honeybee produces about a single teaspoon in its whole life

        Keep in mind though that a honey bee worker only has a working lifespan of a few weeks (though they can survive for months if born during the cold off seasons where they stay huddled in the hive), and each hive has between 40,000 and 80,000 bees. Kept hives also don’t need as much of the honey they produce since the beekeeper can control for climate, colony size, and other factors that increase consumption.

        Pushing out native bees is definitely a major problem, I agree on that, though beekeepers should be managing their colonies to prevent them from splitting and creating new hives.

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        6 hours ago

        Unless you’re in Eurasia, the natural populations aren’t honeybees.

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      7 hours ago

      They most likely found out about honey extractors (spins uncapped honey frames around very fast to extract honey from the comb) without knowing about how honey extractors actually work (they are spun after the bees have been removed).