it does say that theres only 20 in the label, but im more pissed about the waste. everything couldve been put on 3 trays

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    That’s a good metaphor! I’m not sure about the rock though, throwing a rock into a complicated machine doesn’t seem like the best idea. I’d consider replacing it with oil, where it needs to cover the gears at the top first before it can drip down.

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      Yes! That’s the point of the metaphor! The SSRI is the rock. We’re not exactly sure how it’s gonna land, or what it’s total effects are on the machine, but it’s the tool we have and it’s the one we’re using. I don’t remember where I heard it, but I instantly understood why I became so paranoid all those years ago when I tried antidepressants.

      edit: and that doesn’t mean that a person shouldn’t try using them. They can be incredibly effective. But they are what they are. Not a quick fix, and (to most people) not a long term solution.

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          SSRIs are the most effective means we have in terms of medication. That doesn’t mean that they’re the solution. They’re a short term stop gap. The changing of routines and everything that goes on in appointments with psychologists is supposed to be the oil. Many times however that oil isn’t used.

          Other than that we can only hope that we figure out some better tool for the job.

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          Some doctor told my dad a while ago that he felt like we weren’t that far off from physically poking around in a mind and hoping that we fixed it- or that we’re closer to that than understanding it.

          It’s an old and second hand story. I do appreciate the idea though that we’ve found ways to disrupt the mind that can be beneficial, but that we’re not at the level of being able to do more than throw a cog in the works in a general direction.

          For me it makes it easier to accept when the first - or second thing does work. We’re just trying things. It’s not like we know what is gonna unclog the works.

          This is getting pretty deep into a metaphor. Sorry

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          puts conspiracy hat on

          but having a proper solution would make selling meds for a long time harder!

          weed has many medicinal effects, and yet it’s illegal in most places

          LSD has many medicinal effects, and yet it’s not even allowed to be studied in most places! There’s so many stories out there saying how psychedelics outright cured someone’s depression or anxiety, but no proper in depth studies on them.

          I think it’s because nobody is really looking for a cure, well, I bet a lot of doctors want to but sadly they depend on funding & legality of their research. The only way for them to do any studies is to get money from the money men & a permission from the goverment (also ruled by the money men), and since they’re trying to look into claims like “one dose of this cheap to make drug cured me of depression!” then the best business decision is to say “fuck off”

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      Oil doesn’t fix alignment of gears. Ideally, you need to precisely go in and realign the exact gear. But we don’t have that power. So we’re throwing rocks.