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Translation: “I like police (when they beat colored people) but will resist when they tell me to follow rules”
Pretty much. I usually assume folks aren’t aware of their motivations. This is no exception.
Not that it is likely true - it just makes my existence a bit smoother.
Seems pretty consistent. The dude knows that cops are there to uphold white supremacy, he is white and therefore not in danger of being murdered by them. “Conservatism is the belief that laws are there to bind an outgroup but not protect, and protect an in group but not bind them” paraphrasing the quote.
Thank you for introducing me to Wilhoit’s Law:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
It is a really good quote that crystallized for me what conservatives were all about. It just didn’t make a fuck of a lot of sense to me beforehand. Why vote against your interests over and over again?
That, and I also now understand that there is something like 30 percent of the population that doesn’t believe in positive sum games. They think that with every transaction there must be a winner and a loser. Don’t quote me on that exact amount. But it is just a startling amount of people that have some very weird beliefs that lead to fascism.
Fascists are strange creatures indeed.
They claim to be all about logic and rationality, but even a little bit of either blows apart their entire worldview.
“They’re taking all of your jobs” while “they’re lazy and stealing all of the welfare money”.
“It’s simply the natural order” yet “we need brutal enforcement to keep it in place”.
“It’s free speech” yet “ban the books, ban the journalism, jail the journalists”.
“America did not do anything wrong” yet “we cannot teach portions of American history”.
“War is terrible” yet “we’ll blow them to smithereens”.
“College education is useless liberal indoctrination” yet “I was incredibly smart which you can tell because I went to Wharton” and “I graduated from Yale”.
“Thoughts and prayers are all we can offer for shooting victims because bans won’t work” but “let’s ban abortion”.
To your first paragraph, I would say it still doesn’t make a lot of sense. I do think your average conservative benefits from conservative rulemaking/enforcement in a “sundown town,” look-the-other-way-if-you’re-one-of-us sort of microcosm, but when you look at the effects of conservative policymaking on a macro-social and -economic level, it’s clear that middle-Americans are still getting a worse deal than they would under more progressive regimes.
The second and arguably more important component is that conservatives strongly believe in social hierarchies (even if they are themselves near the bottom). So it doesn’t actually matter if their lives get worse, as long as the lives of people below them (i.e. minorities) are even more miserable. In addition, they believe the rich should stay rich and maintain or increase their power, because they naturally deserve it (this would have been the monarchy and the landed gentry/nobility etc in the past).
The dude knows that cops are there to uphold white supremacy, he is white and therefore not in danger of being murdered by them
That may be this man’s belief, but he’s mistaken. Cops murder black/brown Americans at a disproportionate rate, but in absolute numbers, poor white folks catch the majority of State violence.
poor white folks
4matic
I guess he thinks he’s good.
Oh. Did you not hear?
The whole point of white supremacy in the US is to prevent the white working class for talking to the black working class, and organize in their favor to gain any form of fairness or access to the value of their labor. Yeah poor white people LOVE white supremacy, even thought they know they are treated nearly as bad as black folks they know deep down, they at BETTER than them. Of course they’ll fight against labor unions, universal healthcare, and social safety nets, it would make their lives FAR better, obviously, but then the black folks lives would be better too. And that’s too far. So let them live on a stagnant wage for two generations, who cares, they are WHITE! They get to take credit for all white accomplishment! The white inventions! The white laws! The white everything! How wonderful! No need for improvements. Keep those low class burger flippers hungry!
Your skin doesn’t have to be brown for the cops to decide they don’t like you, but it helps.
Should have used this flag
Tread harder daddy, uwu
:3
Ah, the Downbadsden Flag, a national cornerstone of the USA!
I always find people that think that pictures using skeletons makes them more badass really funny. It’s like the little kid version of scary. OMG it’s a hand but it’s a SKELETON HAND! VERY BIGLY STRONG.
Ironically it’s very specifically weaker, without muscles.
Truth. BUT IT’S SCARY BECAUSE I SAW IT AROUND HALLOWEEN AND MY INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT STOPPED AT 12 YEARS OLD!
🎶🎵spooky, scary skeletons will flip your neighbors off🎵🎶
It makes me think of bars, trailers, rusty motorcycles and drug abuse… for some reason.
Like this?
🤣
Zone out at “Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses”
Turn it up to 11 at “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me”
Fun fact: Rage against the Machine had been one of several music groups to require pharmaceutical compliance at their shows during the mysterious global event.
More aptly, they should be called “Rage Along With The Machine”.
It’s Rage Against the Machine, not Rage Against Science and Medicine. They oppose systemic oppression, not health and safety.
The Science™
Or just don’t be a dumbass who’s willing to die for identity politics.
I died. I got sick and died from the deadliest disease in human history. You are talking to my ghost right now.
I’m not in the last bit surprised that you’re not capable of grasping the subtleties of the written word, but I did in fact say ‘‘who’s WILLING to die’’. The use of ‘willing’ in this sentence does exclude the possibility that you’re currently dead, as the self-identifing dumbass. Get vaxxed buddy, it -->COULD<-- save some lives.
Gotta love conservative double-think. A guy who lives up the street from me has a big “come and take it” sticker on the back window of his truck flanked by two thin blue line Punisher skulls.
Like, my brother in Christ, do you not understand who they’re going to be sending to “take it?” I swear these guys think Kamala is going to personally come to their house to demand they give up their guns.
I love two things: freedom … and cops.
And German luxury automobiles…so three things
Just missing the punisher skull with Trump hair to complete the stupidity
That’s a real thing, isn’t it?..
ಠ_ಠ
The only thing Donald Trump has ever punished is a bucket of KFC.
And maybe a toilet.
more likely his pants judging by all the smell statements
🤮
And he’s exactly the kind of corrupt scumbag the Punisher fights against.
Yeah it’s absolutely absurd especially when combined with the thin blue line… Nothing like a vigilante to say “I respect the law and officers of the law.”
Funny enough my immigrant coworker has this on his “new” truck, but only because he just bought it off some jerkwad that had it on there lol he didn’t know what it was.
Pretty sure it’s on the other side.
I can appreciate when people put labels on their car indicating how hazardous they are and how far to stay away. Just the other day I saw a car with similar stickers, including a “We the People…” and one endorsing the Trump / RFK Jr. ticket.
Same, it’s really helpful especially because I’m trans and those type of people can be anything from unpleasant to downright dangerous. I was actually assaulted by one of those right-wing assholes because a little girl bumped into me while I was walking, they then yelled “Groomer!” And ended up punching me really hard in the face and kicked me in the stomach, asshole literally broke my nose.
I usually just consider them stupid. Anyone I know is stupid is someone who can’t be trusted. Not because they are inherently good or bad but because they can’t tell the difference between the two.
The he/him she/her labels on social media profiles are also a pretty reliable timesaver.
So, you believe it’s just better to stay away from people who differ in political opinion?
Funny, that exactly lets me know you’re the type of person that I probably want to stay away from.
Judgemental, condescending, and such. Please let’s not let stupid politics continue to divide us. It’s bad right now.
There’s an obvious difference between someone having a different political belief and a dangerous political belief. Being radical conservative is a dangerous political belief. Forgive me but I don’t want to hang around people who call me slurs or physically threaten me for who I am, or just try to take away my access to live-saving medical care.
Fascism, bigotry, and authoritarianism is not an opinion, in the same way that arsenic isn’t a flavor.
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When you said you were on truth social I knew exactly the kind of person you are. It’s not surprising that you get called a Nazi and a Maga often, you share very similar beliefs with them. Also “You have the right to pretend to be whoever you want to be” fuck you, I’m not pretending, none of us are pretending. This is what I’m talking about when I say thinly veiled transphobia and denial of our identities. We aren’t pretending to be women, we ARE women, trans women are women. If you can’t accept that, regardless of how you self-proclaim yourself or how nice you claim to be or support us, you are a transphobe, because you are refusing to accept us for who we are, and instead try to push and insist that we are something we are not and are just pretending. Go fuck off.
Oh my…
When you said you were on truth social I knew exactly the kind of person you are.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. Now you’ve turned me into a strawman to unleash your anger towards. I’m not going to try to explain anything else. But, you should get a truth social account, it’s pretty wild in there. Don’t be afraid.
You shouldn’t bother trying to waste your breath explaining anything, I have no intention of wasting my time listening to people like you. This quote sums up people like you pretty well, just replace anti-semite with alt-right.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
"Anti-semite, “alt-right”. You couldn’t be further from the truth. What exactly did I say that has you painting me as such a characature?
listening to people like you
sums up people like you
Constant generalizing and stereotyping… It’s assumptions based on ignorance. I think it’s a symptom of social media in general, but I’m really feeling the brunt of it here on lemmy.
You don’t know me. Your arguments are only good against certain people/issues, so you turn me into a strawman for your arguments.
There’s having a difference of opinion and then there’s wanting to end democracy as we know it. Trump and Trump supporters are a threat to democracy.
Trump and Trump supporters are a threat to democracy.
Uhg… No, no they arent… this is exactly the narrative pushed by the left. You’re repeating it like a good little democratic but neither candidate is a threat to democracy. America will be fine. Neither candidate will end democracy.
Just to make my position clear, I’ve never voted republican.
That’s utter BS
Also there is some irony to believing that a democratically elected leader is undemocratic. If 2020 taught us anything it is that you must respect the system.
Trump has basically openly admitted that if he had his way, this would be our last election.
JD Vance is a weird corpo-monarchist. He’s written about it a bit, but his corpo-daddy Peter Thiel has openly spoken about it.
Then there’s Project 2025, a literal blueprint for Trump to follow to turn the country into a christo-fascist dictatorship. Vance wrote the forward to the book form, but the author is holding it back until after the election. Not out of shame, but because they know that being so open with their plan has hurt them in the polls.
How did Hitler raise to power again? Was it a violent fascist military campaign, where he clearly outlined the holocaust in explicit detail, or did a combination of propaganda, street action, democracy, and constant, daily, unending lies that they would be very humane and reasonable in their deportation of ll millions of Jews, and NOT forming a fascist dictatorship to go to war with the entire world to kill everyone not German and repopulate the world with only Germans they SWAERSIED they wouldn’t do.
If you can’t grasp how the plan to depopulation the county of 20 MILLION Hispanic peoples no matter how legal isn’t PLAINLY obvious to you as ethnic clensing, you are the stooge. You are the fool. You are the useful idiot. You have accepted the party line uncritically. You have a crippling lack of curiosity, you can’t fathom why anyone would be offended by calling all Hispanics illegal, as you aren’t even Hispanic, so why would you care, it doesn’t hurt your feelings or threaten you.
It is generally wise to stay away from self declared fascists - and people declaring those things are declaring themselves to be fascists whether they know it or not
I stay way from people who think the world should all agree. I especially don’t like people go around expecting everyone to have the same view
Tolerate my call to ethnic clensing! God why are you so mean!
- Every racist fuck ever
Yeah that’s why I want to stay away from fascists. Glad we agree :P
When people tell me that their stubborn ignorance has reached levels so acute as to endanger the lives of everyone on Earth, I find it prudent to believe them.
When the views are “I kinda like society” and “let the suffering commence!” Yeah, I expect most people to be on my side and anyone on the other to be shunned.
It could also be seen as very literate and they are very much giving the finger to the “thin blue line.”
However, I feel like the “God bless America” sticker on the upper left says that isn’t the case.
I WILL NIT COMPLY
People just put those stickers on their car to get out of tickets.
Needs a Trump mugshot with “NO SURRENDER” under it too.
A car powered by a perpetual whiplash mechanism, like dropping a slice of toast buttered on both sides.
Enough with cold fusion, more research needs to be done on harnessing the power of hypocrisy. It’s such an incredibly rich resource right now.
