Explosive new audio reveals that Donald Trump detailed how he really felt about his White House staff to Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein touted old photos of Trump with half-naked women taken at the site of the pedophile’s rampant sexual abuse of young girls.

On author Michael Wolff’s Thursday episode of his podcast Fire and Fury, Wolff shared a recording of a conversation with Epstein from 2017, in which the convicted sex offender and alleged human trafficker recounted Trump’s true feelings about members of his administration, The Daily Beast reported.

“His people fight each other and then have outsiders—he sort of poisons the well outside,” Epstein told Wolff. Epstein went on to paraphrase Trump’s candid statements about his former strategist Steve Bannon, former chief of staff Reince Priebus, and counselor Kellyanne Conway.

“He will tell 10 people, ‘Bannon’s a scumbag’ and ‘Priebus is not doing a good job’ and ‘Kelly has a big mouth’—what do you think? ‘Jamie Dimon says that you’re a problem and I shouldn’t keep you. And I spoke to Carl Icahn. And Carl thinks I need a new spokesperson,’” Epstein said.

“‘So Kelly[anne]—even though I hired Kellyanne’s husband—Kellyanne is just too much of a wildcard.’ And then he tells Bannon, ‘You know I really want to keep you, but Kellyanne hates you,’” Epstein continued.

Wolff said that he had recordings of roughly “100 hours of Epstein talking about the inner workings of the Trump White House and about his long standing, deep relationship with Donald Trump

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    “And in some of the pictures, they’re sitting in his lap,” Wolff said. “I mean, and, and then there’s one I especially remember where there’s a stain, a telltale stain and on the front of Trump’s pants, and the girls are pointing at him and laughing.”

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    Wolff claimed the FBI discovered the photos in Epstein’s safe when the agency raided his home in 2019, but never released the images to the public.

    Exsqueeze me?

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    If what this guy had was really that big, he wouldn’t have sat on it for 7 years…

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      This particular recording doesn’t matter to me, someone who hates Trump and wants bad news out there to remind people how bad he is. He pitted his staff against each other. A pretty toxic workplace, but not something that’s really high priority in making a decision.

      It doesn’t even establish that Epstein and Trump were close. This could all have been him listening to the rumor mill or getting a description from someone on the inside because he was a stupid rich scumbag and could get access to high profile Republican places. If he’s actually got 100 hours of bombshell recordings, this is the dumbest one to lead with.

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        I was trying to get across more than anything is you could build a nuanced, structured, and well-supported argument for any of his major faults, and any of his supporters would not be swayed because their opinion isn’t based in fact.

        Not necessarily that this was the nail in the coffin, just that you could hear a dozen of these stories a week, each of varying credibility, and it wouldn’t matter if one had him dead to rights.

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          No one is trying to convert the faithful at this hour. That time is long past, but there are plenty of Trump-leaners who are uncomfortable with the choice and could switch or decide to stay home if they hear something they just can’t accept.

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      Or even just anything more important than that he pitted his staff against each other. Who the fuck cares about that?

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      Conspiracy theorists are wild. Here we have Jeff Epstein’s best friend, who admitted he had the same “On the younger side” tastes (in addition to on his own time bragging that if he found someone attractive he sexually assaults them and he’ll get away with it because he’s famous, but you aren’t allowed to use that confession against him because he was in a locker room when he said it), and was in charge of the prison where he died, wished the woman who trafficked for him well, explicitly says he probably won’t release files on Epstein because of “false accusations”, and they don’t bat an eye for even a second. But if it was anyone but Donald any one of those things individually would have them screaming that it must mean something.

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        was in charge of the prison where he died

        Technically the president delegates that to his Attorney General, who in this case was the son of the guy who first hired a totally unqualified Epstein (21 years old, no college degree) to be around high school age kids, where he was known for ogling girls and somehow showing up to student parties where there was underage drinking.

        And some blame lays with the prosecutor back in 2008 when Epstein was first charged for sex trafficking and sexual assault, who decided to let Epstein agree to a secret plea deal for only 13 months in county jail (which is really weird for a federal prosecutor to let happen), who, oh wait, was then rewarded by becoming a cabinet official for Trump.

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        It also kind of right up the dudes personality.

        Hitler had the what you could call a ‘close friend’ (I don’t think these monsters really have any friends) executed in the night of the long knives for simply being gay.

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    The thing I find hard to believe is that this guy has these recordings and waited until now. I’m not saying it’s not true, but this is messy removed shit and really convenient at a dramatic moment.

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      It’s another one of those journalists that decided to wait until his book was done. Bob Woodward did a ton of this as well, sitting on things that we should’ve been told in real time.

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      It’s a classic.

      You git some dirt? If you throw it out whenever, people might be caught up in other dramas or the person isn’t interesting enough (like Trump 2 years ago, who would have cared?), so you have to wait and publish for maximum exposure and damage.

      In france there is a whole slew of files concerning the extreme right, so when they get elected in say some small election or gets a pisition in the party, there’s always some rape allegations or heil-hitler photos coming forward…

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      Wolff has been like this for decades. He’s as craven as the rest of them. But he’s also very often right.

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      Reporting on anything related to Epstein is almost non-existent because of all the powerful people that are vulnerable.

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      Which is mine blowing because they talk so much about the Epstein list, because they believe it confirms their belief about corrupt elites, but then totally reject that the most likely guilty one is trump.

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    He could admit to raping little children and his base would just say these children were blessed by his dick

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    These are just regular ass manipulative shithead moves… What else would anyone expect from Trump and Cult 45?

    Like so many other things, I doubt his camp even cares.

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    His base couldn’t care less. He was on audio talking about dating his own daughter when she was young.

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    I hope the veracity of these is provable. It’s so easy to fake shit these days. 😞