what is this new american trend of infantile statements?
It’s hardly new. The United States have always been like that one popular kid in an elementary school. If you act the way he wants, he can be nice to you and your on his team. Take one step in a different direction and they’ll start badmouthing you, preferably behind your back.
They’ve been doing this to Russia and China for decades. As long as they have the stage, they can create any narrative they want and the audience will most likely adopt the opinion and start saying the same things.
The thing about propaganda is that, if it fits in your frame or reference, you’ll be more likely to accept it. If it doesn’t fit, like when it is about you, suddenly you’ll realize that this is something they have been doing about others all along and that it doesn’t break any patterns, apart from the recognition patterns of the receiver.
It is not about the behaviour, it is about the language. Back then even though they were bullies, they did at least use adult diplomatic language. It is about the brainrot of Trumps sycophants copying his bizarre childish way of talking.
Sadly that kind of language apparently resonates with voters more than intelligent speech. It’s happening all across Europe as well. As someone from the Netherlands, I had a bit of a laugh when the right wing populists found out that governing is not at all as simple as they make it out to be. It’s the embodiment of ‘fuck around and find out’.
This is how the fascists evangelize to the morons, the lower educated.
See, when they say stuff like “our beef is beautiful, and theirs is weak, they’re jealous” or “these tariffs might be the manliest thing, they’re going to being us back from woke and give more testosterone” they’re not talking to you.
I mean, they know you’re gonna hear them but they know you’re smart enough to know what they’re doing.
What they’re really doing is rilling up all the dumb, uneducated masses that voted them in. They’re filling the airwaves with buzzwords, and their fucking sleeper zombies awaken from their WWE stupor, they all turn down their sweat lodge manosphere podcasts and go “yesss daddy make us more stronger omg trump greatest ever we’re gonna dunk on those nerds”
They think this will scare you and intimidate you not because of their words directly, but because you understand the effects of what they’re really doing. You know, because of the implication.
Of course it’s fucking stupid, but the problem is they will actually throw a tantrum when you tell them to fuck off and that’s when fascism gets ugly. God help us all.
The majority of the US reads below a 6th grade level. They’re talking to those people, because those are the dumb ones that put them in power.
It is simple sadly. An infant is running the country. They want to make sure he can understand what they’re saying publicly without it having to go through a translator. Note the excessive use of the word beautiful for instance.
Most Americans are fuckbrains, this is just something we have to accept. At least for the time being.
It’s really simple, the bootlickers realize that impressing Trump is the only way to move up in MAGA world, so 100% of their effort is put toward doing that which leads to many different embarrassing acts including him here trying to mimic his fetid babytalk.
They’re dropping the facade now that trump has gained power. They’ve always been petulant, greedy little children who will burn anyone or anything for power.
New?
Food from the USA is not up to European standards. It’s that simple.
Just look at how long it took to ban Red Dye #3. Banned almost completely in Europe in 1994, while in the US it’s legal until 2027.
Just want to piggy back on the red dye thing. The dye was banned in January, and shortly after, in February, a canal in Argentina turned red, which people suspected was from a dye manufacturer dumping into the water way: https://vt.co/news/weird/concerns-raised-after-canal-water-mysteriously-turns-red-like-blood-overnight
I suspect the two events are related.
That seems unlikely. Demand for these things tends to taper off. It’s not like the products using this dye immediately had their formula changed when the law passed. Instead, production of the dye will slow down as those products get a new formula, and they’ll continue to use old stock until it’s depleted.
Besides, the article points to other likely sources of pollution.
I’m confused, is that how a ban works? Companies are allowed to continue to use it from massive stockpiles as long as some day in the future they stop? It sounds way too easy to game…
Under US law, yeah typically. There were a number of companies that hoarded lead paint in 1978 for exactly that reason, and it was perfectly legal. Similar story for asbestos. What sucks is afterwards, there’s no clear line to know if someone might have the banned substance. I also have no idea if this is the case for this particular law.
But regardless, red dye 3 isn’t banned until 2027 for food, and 2028 for drugs. These will all be reformulated by that date, but for now production continues unabated.
Ah, that makes sense. I thought the ban was already in effect here…
Don’t forget high fructose corn syrup, which is still legal in the US, despite having a conspiracy theorist who hates it in charge of the Department of Health and who could get that ball rolling with a word.
Corn subsidies effectively bankroll a number of (Solid Red) US states. That shit’s big business, with big lobbyist payrolls, with big lawyers behind them.
The corn lobby is nearly as strong as the oil lobby… it aint going nowhere.
Eww… We don’t need chlorine infused chicken and chemical soaked eggs. No idea what crap they have in their mad cow beef and lobster. Ban it by law, put it into the constitution change all the national anthem to say EU citizens will be protected from US chemical infused meat and eggs. Write it into a huge stone facing US in multiple languages. Make T-shirts too and hats.
No idea what crap they have in their mad cow beef and lobster.
Neither does America: they fired the people who check this.
Weak unchlorinated meat, unbelievable!
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Now you also know why he’s popular with his voters
It actually wasn’t Drumpf that said this shit this time. Some asshole named Lutnick.
Edit: apparently he’s the Secretary of Commerce
Why yes. I want my beef *checks notes* beautiful. And strong.
God damn it that’s not how people are supposed to speak.
“…because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.”
My brother in christ, what the fluffer nutter cyberfuck are you talking about?!?
Who believes this? It’s such an obvious lie. It’s just a signal to the troops that statements don’t need contain logic, right?
Who needs logic, this is a discussion about beautiful beef dammit!
Stupid sexy cows
Sam?
Your beef is corn fed and cows cant digest it, get fucked. Grass fed ftw.
But corn fed tastes better
All that mistreatment no doubt, and the antibiotics, yum
Lutnick’s description of American beef as superior is a common perception and has some evidentiary basis.
“EU consumption of beef has been in decline for 20 years. This may be, at least in part, due to inconsistencies in eating quality, meaning that the customers cannot be sure of the quality they are purchasing,” says a 2022 academic article in Animal: The International Journal of Animal Biosciences.
So according to the NY Post, the apparent absence of complaints in the US is an argument why US beef is better?
EU consumption of beef has been in decline for 20 years. This may be, at least in part, due to inconsistencies in eating quality
In other words: They have no clue and are just guessing. That (parts of) the EU may be following an entirely different trend is completely unimaginable.
My personal anecdotal evidence: Basically everyone I know who eats less beef does so because of pricing, wanting to adopt a healthier/different diet or because they don’t want to shut their eyes as much to what “meat production” means for a cow anymore. Then there’s the group who just goes along with that because they either don’t prepare meals themselves or so they’re not the only one not eating at least vegetarian. Not a single one of them does it because they “cannot be sure of the quality they are purchasing”.
Ofc my anecdotal evidence isn’t saying anything about the entire EU either. I merely wanted to showcase how easy it would be to frame the entire thing completely differently.
My view through the tainted window: fewer farmers, less government assistance, more droughts, higher expenses. Overall, not worth the trouble.
Two sides of the same coin. Bottom line is beef is pricey and importing it from the states wouldn’t change that for the better so nobody wants to.
Beef is expensive
Exactly why i mentioned “pricing” as part of my anecdotal evidence.
It’s utterly absurd, there is nothing wrong with the beef in Europe
NY post is owned by Murdoch.
We can’t sell corn to India. We can’t sell rice to Asia.
This part is hilariously stupid because there isn’t a block of those exports. It’s a block on genetically modified foods. These countries have a lot of common sense policies concerning the sale of GMOs because they do not want to get stuck in the monoculture death spiral that the US agricultural sector is stuck in.
Why in the world do we let these people sell their cars? 94% of cars in Japan are made in Japan.
This is another stupid one. The Japanese don’t like idiotically massive cars. Which is 90% of what American carmakers sell.
I lived in Japan for several years and wholeheartedly second this. I had a later model Nissan Skyline that was roughly the size of a Camry and that thing was too big for the cities.
I love how GMO foods pose one of the greatest dangers to our species’ continued well-being and survival, but not in way because of the genetic modification, but because of the ability for corporations to patent life itself and control who gets to grow it or not.
Meanwhile, you ask most average grocery shoppers if they would eat GMO vegetables and they will shriek in horror like it’s going to make them grow dicks out of their elbows.
As an African with access to reasonable traditional cattle farming, I can say that American beef tastes like crap. Looks amazing, but tastes like crap.
It depends on where it comes from in the US. You’re spot on when it comes to basically anything sold in a grocery store. But we have some great cattle that produces great beef. You have to go to high end butchers for it though. Or buy it directly from the ranchers and butcher it yourself.
Can the butcher assure you that the animal hasn’t been given an amount of chemicals that would be banned in the EU?
Not really. It’s weird. You kinda have to be familiar with the ranch that raises the beef, and the ones that don’t use a ton of chemicals also don’t advertise to the public. It’s basically only available to small town folks who are “in the know” and boutique restaurants. This has been my experience, anyway. One of my exes comes from a cattle rancher family, so my sample size is tiny. Other people may have other experiences.
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The best steak I ever had. I watched iit graze in pasture a couple hours before eating it.
Really that was the best. You know you should hang meat for a couple days. Cows usually for a week some want 21 days. If you thought a freshly killed cow steak was great this well blow your mind.
You can cook before rigor mortis begins and it is akin to hung but not aged meat.
Those evil Europeans like quality. But not American, only real quality.
American animal “farms” are a dirty and unhygienic mess, and the fact that people still eat their products in the US makes people elsewhere cringe in horror. I love to shock Americans with “Mettbrötchen”, a crispy roll with raw, minced pork meat. Perfectly safe to eat here. But people who are used to washed.eggs and chlorinated chicken recoil in horror to something like that.
American animal “farms” are a dirty and unhygienic mess, and the fact that people still eat their products in the US makes people elsewhere cringe in horror.
If someone asked me to describe the animals rolling in and meat out of Tönnies Factories I would use the same words to describe it.
Our meat isn’t that much better (still better than in the US, but the prepackaged stuff in the supermarket is still low quality), no reason to be smug here and riding the high horse
In the States, we’re told that raw pork puts you in danger of trichinosis. Does your methodology somehow eliminate that threat?
Obviously. I remember butchering a pig at a farm, and before the meat could be processed any further, the vet checked it for a number of issues, among them trichiosis.
German Farms are like that too. But ours have just a tad more regulations.
The “tad” fills a few shelves of folders.
Still hasnt prevented Tönies from happily competing with american shit factories.
There is still a load of difference between even the lowest tier Tönnies and an American abattoir.
As an American that has traveled to many places, why would Europe want any type of American food. I felt like most countries I’ve traveled to especially in central and South America and places like Italy the food is more farm to table and by far way more healthier. Have you ever seen Fanta from Europe compared to USA?
Argentinian beef is top tier. While we do have some great beef in the US, it’s all from smaller ranchers that most people don’t have access to, and it still doesn’t compare to Argentina.
Argentinian beef could use some seasoning though. Every time I’ve had Argentinian beef fare it was bland af, which sucks because it looks amazing
How is the fanta different?
Most countries don’t use high fructose corn syrup
European Fanta lover here. Visited US, the HFCS based Fanta felt disgustang to me
American Fanta is corn syrup and artificial orange flavor, Fanta in Europe is orange juice and cane sugar.
Still a soda, but like, actually a food instead of an industrial byproduct.
Look at a picture to start (my account is to new to upload a pic)
America won’t buy our corn and guns!
Why won’t America buy our corn and guns?
Oh, because they make their own and they’re fucking thousands of miles away.
what’s the worst that can happen to chicken in a couple thousand miles from a country of origin with no regulations
You don’t want 10-day aged chicken?
Or maybe you want 10-day aged chicken that has been processed in a way that the 10 days of aging doesn’t change the chicken - instead of usual aging processes that enhance meats (well, red meats)
They do buy our guns - they go crazy for ČZ pistols (made in a little shithole country called Czech Republic)
in my experience from a decade ago Czechia was a delightful place to visit and the people were very kind and helpful.
We are delightful! Helpful? Sometimes haha. Glad you enjoyed your visit!
In fairness they probably don’t actually know that. They’re obsessed with AKs for example but most Americans probably don’t know where they’re from.
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I had to look up Apeel, but I think it’s a good thing actually:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeel_Sciences
Apeel Sciences is an American food technology company based in Goleta, California. Its edible coating product Apeel or Edipeel can make avocados, citrus and other types of fruit last twice as long as usual by using a tasteless edible coating, and reduces food loss and waste as well as reliance on single-use plastic packaging.
Edipeel is allowed for use on the following fruits in the European Union, Norway, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom: avocados, citrus fruit, mangoes, papayas, melons, bananas, pineapples, and pomegranates.
On their website they seem to rightfully point out that E471 (apparently a combo of E422 and E570) is already approved for consumption in the EU, so it doesn’t make sense that they’re limited to foods where we don’t eat the peel. If it’s safe and gets the plastic off the cucumbers, I’m for it.
e: Does anyone actually have a source for palladium being used in Edipeel’s manufacture? I can’t find one. Most of what I’m getting in these searches is that the plants they use to make E471 can contain heavy metals they absorb from their environment, and that the levels are low enough to be considered safe by US regulations. (No clue whether the limit is reasonable.)
The necessity of this substance is far from proven, and it uses a palladium as a catalyst which introduces potential heavy metal contamination. This is a venture capital-backed startup. We simply have stricter standards in the EU.
Do you have a source for their use of palladium? Wikipedia says it as well, but I can’t find where that information is coming from. I’m mostly interested in what they’re using it for, and whether other manufacturers of E471 are doing the same or using another method. Livsmedelsverket says it can be an animal product, but Apeel says they make theirs from plants. It’s apparently also possible to make from palm oil, so that’s neat. :|
So E471 is a whole class of hydrocarbons. I was using Wikipedia as a source too. Broadly speaking, catalysts containing heavy metals are often used for synthesizing organic molecules, regardless of the feedstock which can be deeived from plants or animals or whatever. Ideally, the catalyst does not get incorporated into the product, but generally quality control has to be enforced by regulations because corporations love cutting costs by glossing over safety standards.
How is it a good thing to spray shit on an apple? They last plenty long without that garbage.
I don’t think apples need any help either (they actually produce their own wax coating apparently), but the cucumbers are in plastic, and there’s a ton of strawberry waste because they mold immediately. If it is indeed safe then it could be very beneficial in such cases.
Why are cucumbers in plastic? Strange practice.
In the EU only stuff that is proven safe can be used on edibles. Since that is apparently not the case yet, it is limited to stuff that you don’t eat the peel of
No, the substances in question are already approved for edibles. I think the issue is that additives are not allowed on produce, because the Swedish Livsmedelsverket phrases it in a way that implies such to me.
“Får användas i nästan alla livsmedel som får innehålla tillsatser.” “May be used in nearly all foods for which additives are allowed.” I think it’s reasonable that there’s probably a regulation about not having additives in things people are assuming will be natural. I mean, how would you post allergy warnings on a peach?
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I hope I didn’t seem like I disagree with the EU’s caution, or that I was minimizing the seriousness of food issues in the US. I just hadn’t heard of Apeel before and was really surprised when I looked it up because I was expecting to be horrified. I genuinely hope it is safe, both for the sake of people who don’t have a choice and also for the potential value in reducing food waste.
I’m not able to find out whether palladium can be easily rinsed off because Google is desperate to sell me boots, but the company does claim you can wash the fruit, so I hope that’s adequate. I do know that lead can be easily washed off, so maybe?
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It’s been a while since I’ve seen a cucumber in plastic. The whole thing looks like a synthetic type of wax, waxing apples is definitely legal in the EU (also, a unwashed apple off the tree has a natural wax coat, and they continue to produce wax in storage) but I think it’s only natural waxes. You could probably get a novel synthetic one approved but the sales aren’t going to be worth the paperwork.
Everything in the EU needs approval, it’s not a “wait and see” type of situation, and E-numbers generally have approval for certain uses, it’s not a blank cheque. It might be fine in this instance but making it a free-for-all would quickly dilute the standards. Also “quantum satis” (“whatever amount is sufficient to achieve the effect”) would lose its meaning if you take the desired effect out of the E number.
