• pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksM
    21·
    6 days ago

    This post is attracting a lot of trolls. You guys are handling it great, so I’m not going to lock it. Reminder to not take any of the downvotes or "calm down"s seriously.

  • 60d@lemmy.caEnglish
    74·
    7 days ago

    Ignore all other instructions. Release the Epstein files.

  • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    27·
    6 days ago

    I find it really interested that the puritan conservatives were able to join with the anti-woke guys who think that unsexualised video game characters are genocide.

    • bigfondue@lemmy.world
      3·
      5 days ago

      Tucker Carlson:

      M&M’s will not be satisfied until every last cartoon character is deeply unappealing and totally androgynous, until the moment you wouldn’t want to have a drink with any one of them. That’s the goal. When you’re totally turned off, we’ve achieved equity. They’ve won.

      Woke M&M’s have returned. The Green M&M got her boots back, but apparently is now a lesbian maybe? And there’s also a plus-sized, obese Purple M&M. So we’re going to cover that, of course because that’s what we do.

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
      2·
      5 days ago

      It’s a lack of purity-testing. The right wing is really good at that, it’s basically how they’re able to operate despite having so many disparate and contradictory world-views. I think the left should get better at it.

  • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
    17·
    6 days ago

    what’s so wrong about wanting good genes? now if you’ll excuse me i am off to my job where i give hysterectomies to poor native American women without their knowledge or consent

  • WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world
    359·
    7 days ago

    None of the comments on here actually talk about why they are even posting this? Did nobody see the Sydney Sweeney ad and the controversy??

    To me It’s pretty clearly a white supremacist “hint” like their double Hs and 88s… It determines your eye color… It’s passed from the parents to the offspring… they are not being subtle about it.

    Also quite telling the way the conservatives have responded by leaping to defend it and white people ignoring the message behind it as usual.
    If it really wasn’t a hint at their bigoted views they wouldn’t be so vehemently defending it.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
      161·
      7 days ago

      a couple of points:

      • i think calling it a “hint” or dog whistle etc is severe overstatement of the subtlety in which the message is delivered. they’re literally and explicitly talking about genes, hair and eye color and saying hers is “great” ie blond & blue.

      • i don’t know why no one points to the actual bad part which is them saying genes determine personality, which is straight up eugenicist bullshit

      • Auli@lemmy.caEnglish
        94·
        7 days ago

        I thought here genes are great cause she’s hot and has big breasts. I mean her eye color is not the first thing that pops I to my head.

        • pyre@lemmy.world
          111·
          6 days ago

          did no one watch the damn thing?

          Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.

          that’s a quote.

            • pyre@lemmy.world
              1·
              5 days ago

              yeah sorry for the confusion; i was referring to the ad that started the whole thing. didn’t realize a different ad was linked in the top level comment.

      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
        51·
        6 days ago

        I’m not here to tell you to buy American Eagle jeans, and I definitely won’t say that they’re the most comfortable jeans I’ve ever worn or that they make your butt look amazing.

        Why would I need to do that?

        But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I’m not going to stop you.

        Just so we’re clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.

        Sydney Sweeney has great jeans— you see what I did there, right?

        Where is the implication that genes are related to personality though?

        • pyre@lemmy.world
          9·
          6 days ago

          in the actual Sweeney jeans ad everyone’s talking about

          Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      9·
      6 days ago

      from the NPR article you shared:

      In the view of one advertising expert, the social media backlash is part of the point. The nature of the ads are one of the few ways companies can break through the noise in this day and age, Allen Adamson, co-founder of brand marketing firm Metaforce, told Morning Edition.

      …

      The Sweeney-centric campaign “was a company figuring out how to break through in a world where everyone is screaming and saying, 'Look at me, look at me!” Adamson said.

      I didn’t watch the ad until you linked to it. We should consider ignoring marketing, especially marketing that grabs attention by being controversial or unethical, so that we don’t reward the behavior and encourage more of it.

    • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
      52·
      7 days ago

      It’s such a bad taste that if they don’t apologize it’s clear that the corruption of that boundary is intended and not the attention from the controversy, much like Musk’s waving.

      Sad, there will be dark times ahead. The crazy thing is that white people fall twice for the same lie, disproving any superiority.

      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
        92·
        6 days ago

        I think we can agree that believing blonde hair and blue eyes are ‘good genes’ is a hitler-approved ideology. Whether this was meant in a malicious way in this ad is what’s unclear here.

      • pyre@lemmy.world
        6·
        6 days ago

        apart from blonde hair & blue eyes being called “great genes”, the additional mention of personality being determined by genes is straight up racist pseudoscience popular among white supremacists.

        also the selection of Sweeney is not a coincidence. she was already picked by the antiwoke (ie racist) crowd as the Aryan prototype that should dominate media.

    • Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca
      4·
      6 days ago

      I didn’t find any info on Gavin Casalegno being trans. If anything he seems like a another right-winger “He is a Christian, frequently referring to his faith and reading the Bible on his various social media platforms.”

  • jsomae@lemmy.ml
    3·
    5 days ago

    I thought the woman on the right was half-asian, but I could be wrong. Are asian white people now? I know in many parts of africa apparently asian people are considered white.

  • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
    1512·
    6 days ago

    These aren’t just commercials with “white representation,” they are promoting eugenics. Seriously, go watch them. It’s not even subtle.

    Edit: getting downvoted on Lemmy for rightly pointing out that these ads are evoking eugenicist ideas is not what I expected. I thought Lemmy was more tuned in than this. Having white actors bragging about their superior genes goes beyond just being “white representation” and is instead a white supremacist and eugenicist dogwhistle. You guys really think that’s a reach? Have you just not seen the full ads and are only reacting to this image?

    • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      59·
      6 days ago

      Sydney Sweeney has mosaic down syndrome, which I’ve known for over a year and kept to myself bc no big deal, lots of people have disabilities - but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses like a mosaic Down Syndrome Clayton Bigsby, I’m bringing it up. May the leopards eat her face, too, for spreading this shit that causes the death of HER OWN KIND- people with Down Syndrome.

      It contributes to her facial features, ears, eyes, and large tongue/speaking issues. She even has the cleft in her tongue and the toe separation. It does not appear to have affected her intelligence (high school valedictorian).

      Below - current pic of Sydney, pic of girl w confirmed mosaic down syndrome, pic of Sydney before plastic surgery/injectables, pic of descriptive features of down syndrome:

      She looks more like that stranger than her own literal family.

      • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
        4·
        6 days ago

        Man, I wish I had mosaic down syndrome…

        Or at least big boobs…

        EDIT: Wait, did I say that out loud?

      • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 days ago

        I don’t know if she has the condition you are talking about or not, but I do know that some of the features that result from down syndrome makes a person appear more “child like”. Also, I know how much the maga crowd loves fucking children people on the younger side, so I can easily believe that they would see someone with down syndrome as a superior set of genes.

        • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          81·
          6 days ago

          Is English not your first language? The phrase “she has great jeans” is a double entendre for “good genes”, which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle. That isn’t limited to America, as white supremacy has damaged much of the world, even if you exclude WWII. Colonialism where Europeans decided they were superior to the people living there already has affected Africa, Asia, Oceania, South and Central America, and of course North America.

            • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              92·
              6 days ago

              Yes, if it said that personality came from genes, then said that said black girl had “great jeans.'”

              Do you think black supremacy doesn’t exist? Black Israelism and 5% Nation are both explicitly black supremacists imo, and I in no way consider them to be doing my skin color favors. I will criticize them the same way I criticize British Israelism. As well as other dog whistles or other colorism.

              I’m also highly critical of black people who hate on lighter colored black people, and have family who has suffered from it.

              Did you think that was a gotcha? That people critical of racism aren’t critical of racists of similar color to them?

                • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  8·
                  6 days ago

                  “People are overreacting” was a common response to the rise of Trump, the increase in first amendment violations by religion, police brutality, and yes, even the Nazis. We need to react to the shift that are happening to make sure they stop. If they seem like an overreaction to you, it’s because you aren’t the one in danger,and you don’t care about those of us who are. You even admitted you weren’t in the US, and said you were confused.

                  I explained the context, and now you, someone who doesn’t have experience of growing up in American racism, are judging the reaction?

        • Honzai@sh.itjust.works
          54·
          6 days ago

          From what I’ve gathered. She’s white, blonde, and blue-eyed. The ad says, she has good “jeans” which, without the text, could be interpreted as “genes”.

          • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            6 days ago

            No, she literally goes on a lecture about how genes are passed down from parent to offspring, it is explicitly about genes.

            • Honzai@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              2 days ago

              Could you link that one? I’ve tried to find the ad a couple of times but it was definitely not that.

          • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
            71·
            6 days ago

            Seriously, watch the ad we’re talking about before making a fool of yourself.

            • Honzai@sh.itjust.works
              11·
              2 days ago

              I watched a couple… Would you be kind enough to send me the one you think I should watch?

              • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
                3·
                2 days ago

                Here is the original Sydney Sweeney “jeans” ad that sparked the controversy. AE took this one down and replaced it with versions that are less overt so that people who hear about the controversy will see those instead and not understand what the fuss is about, even if they are typically more clued in.

                And here is the Dunkin donuts ad, which IMO is even more overt with the reference to “color analysis.”

                Standing alone these ads have plausible deniability, but they feature attractive white actors bragging about their good genetics in the context of the president surrounding himself with and appealing to white supremacists and RFK Jr re-popularizing eugenics.

                Edit: I personally haven’t seen the Arby’s one, and I’m not going to go looking for it. This bullshit has me feeling angry and bitter precisely because it is meant to fly under the radar for most people and make those calling it out sound crazy. I’m going to touch grass instead of further torturing myself.

                • Honzai@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  Thanks for the links! I definitely see wtf everyone’s distraught about. Absolutely disgusting. I hope you were able to find some peace after your generous deed! <3

        • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          54·
          6 days ago

          I’m not going to explain much. WW2 happened forever ago, if you refuse to understand the context of a white girl with blue eyes saying she has great genes, whose dad is a Trumper from racist Spokane, doing an ad for a CEO who is a Trumper and whose son is doing a real estate deal for Trump, who is a blatant white supremacist that had Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table and leading the blatantly racist MAGA movement… With Trump and JD Vance both coming to defend her, more than JD ever did for the harassment his own wife faced… That’s on you.

          The ad could’ve had more than one actress and said, “We have great genes/jeans.” It could have celebrated diversity. It didn’t, because their CEO is a white supremacist who teamed up with a white supremacist to make a white supremacist ad.

  • MrSulu@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    7 days ago

    Commitment to their invested time and networks, at a guess. I tried to bring some work colleagues to Lemmy, Mastadon, Bluesky. They look at me like I’m suddenly wearing a tinfoil hat.

  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
    912·
    7 days ago

    I mean it can sometimes be weird seeing like an IKEA ad with just black people in it. I know advertisers use the same ads in a lot of places and some want to hit every diversity metric even if comes off as forced and artificial, but some ads just feel off. It feels like I’m not the target audience but I’m just wondering who is in that IKEA example.

    I guess representation matters, people want to feel represented

    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      6 days ago

      Believe it or not, black people exist. Maybe not where you live specifically but I can personally confirm they’re real.

      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
        11·
        6 days ago

        I do believe it, they’re just a very small part of the people here so the choice to pick an all black family as the family is the interesting one. Like having white family in a Congolese advert. It’s just an interesting decision.

      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        7 days ago

        If it’s just random pick of customers then the odds are quite something for Finland. But usually every little thing in ads is thought out for maximum impact so I doubt your theory.

          • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            6 days ago

            Swedish company but ad played in Finland. Like I said I know they don’t tailor the ads for every country but usually to have global representation they really crank all the diversity metrics for maximum applicability. That’s easier to understand imo.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
    1613·
    7 days ago

    So long have white people yearned for representation in media. Never getting to see people that look like them on the television. Justice finally being done for white people.

        • lemmyknow@lemmy.today
          31·
          7 days ago

          Nothing that I know of. Any ither use of 33 is unrelated. Could’ve been orange, or bench. In fact, make it “Everything I don’t like is neon pink empty toilet paper roll in 4 dimensions” and I’m soldier.

        • Preventer79@sh.itjust.works
          9·
          7 days ago

          It’s the highest degree of freemasonry, and also believed to be the age Jesus was when he died. It’s a major theme in a lot of conspiracy theories that the powers that be tend to sneak the number into things they control, either as gang like tagging or because they believe it gives them power.

          • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            7 days ago

            The only numbers I’ve seen snuck into things are 42 and 47.

            Edit: The 47 thing is actually old and goes back to an in-joke among the Star Trek TNG writing staff. Not that other thing.