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nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 8 days ago

Do you like systemd?

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Do you like systemd?

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    omg scary systemd, with Artix I go

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    Systemd is fine.

    Journald is fine.

    But someone pass me a mace I can beat systemd-resolved and systemd-logind to death with

    EDIT: Oh come on

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      You’ll love resolved when you have to deal with split DNS ;)

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        Oh trust me I have. resolvconf and openresolve are awful too but for different reasons

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    Systemd has simplified my life on a few occasions, and it seems to be reliable from what I can tell. At the end of the day if I can get the OS to do what I want in a relatively simple matter, that’s all I care about.

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      In all seriousness, I’ve yet to encounter a situation where Systemd made any meaningful negative difference in my Linux experience.

      I’ve never had problems with any init system, Systemd or otherwise.

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    I don’t know what systemd is but this is pretty much how I picture all linux users.

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    Have one extra buzz from me as well. Screw RedHat and everything it does.

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    Well, now I do.

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    Systemd has been a complete, utter, unmitigated success.

    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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      I fully agree. I am a user with a bit of technical background, but not a lot of detailled knowledge about the inner workings of an operating system (i know boolean logic and basic programming structures - in Pascal lol - from the 90’s, what a transistor does and stuff, how to build my own PCs and handle filesystems and troubleshooting).

      With init scripts, i hit a wall pretty fast.

      With Systemd i know how to start, stop and configure services, and the suite built around it uses the same conventions everywhere, making the everyday life with Linux for someone like me so much easier and more transparent than ever before.

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      Have you considered that just “reaping old process IDs” wasn’t enough responsibility for an init daemon on a secure, robust system? That maybe it should be protecting other parts of the system and tracking the liveness of a desired service?

      What is the benefit of specifically doing that in init?

      If I see an argument like this then I can only assume the interlocutor doesn’t do software engineering.

      Its more likely that the user simply has simple needs like running stuff at startup which any init system can do and doesn’t see as much benefits as poster.

      Also who loves systemd-resolved?

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        Being able to assign a nameserver per interface with a domain wildcard is a fucking godsend. I use it every day with a hook script because my job uses some private domains but I don’t want to send my entire DNS history through the VPN. Now ~job.com goes to tun0 and that’s the end of it.

        systemd-resolved is not perfect but with libnss’s overly rigid nature the only alternative for my use-case would be to recreate similar functionality to resolved with dnsmasq – which is just objectively worse especially when you want to use DHCP sometimes but not always. Why reinvent the wheel? resolved does its job and does it well. I had some issues with it a few years ago but have been using it for the past couple years without complaint.

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        What is the benefit of specifically doing that in init?

        What’s the alternative?

        Also who loves systemd-resolved?

        I don’t think I will ever love anything DNS-related, but it’s still the best solution I’ve used for name resolution on a system with many interfaces.

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    The other day I wrote I like snaps and shot more rope than Spiderman.

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      Flatpak is amazing especially with storage being so cheap these days.

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        OK, Satan.

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        Just replying to keep the vibes going.

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        I still remember the bad old days of stale repositories and compiling from scratch. Never again.

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          There was 25 years between c;m;mi and lennart’s cancer, filled with excellent choices better than either.

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        I just had an issue with the vscodium flatpak, been using it for two months with no issue in an online course, got to learning GUIs, import module, doesn’t exist. I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t there, installed three different python versions of it three different ways, still nothing. Couldn’t even get vscodium to point to a different interpreter that I knew was there (yet it doesn’t say it’s not there, just that some things won’t work). Still nothing. Three hours later, after trying everything I could think of, I realized that it was because I installed the flatpak version when it clicked that it worked in Geany and I didn’t have python 3.13 in my repos, yet that was the only one I could see in vscodium.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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          That sounds like user error.

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            From a broad enough perspective, everything is user error

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            Vscodium isn’t in the repos for opensuse, but yes, this user should have found a way to install it on bare metal in the first place.

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              Have you tried butterflies?

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    Systemd is the greatest innovation that Linux has ever seen bar none.

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      Since I started actually doing system administration and actually interacting directly with SystemD all of the hate for it I’d soaked up from enthusiast forums melted away. I’ve never used any of the other init systems so maybe I’m missing out, but I do appreciate SystemD for what it does

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      bwwwwt

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        Happy cake day

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      pipewire feels close

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    Rule 34:

    If there’s a user base, there’s buttplug.io support…

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      Error: That number is already picked for a different rule. Please select a different number.

      • Elvith Ma'for@feddit.org
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        Sigh

        sudo Rule 34:

        If there’s a user base, there’s buttplug.io support…

        –force

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          If you used the right amount of lube you wouldn’t have to force!

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        Maybe consider rule 33. ‘Lurk more its never enough’

        • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          That’s taken too.

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            Lurk more its never enough is rule 33.

            https://rules.nebula-system.com/rule-33

            Which you didn’t follow.

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      Let’s hope the user base is flared.

    • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      “I know my playerbase.” -Hakita, the dev of Ultrakill

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    Okay, so, this place IS filled with furries. Cool.

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      Linux wouldn’t work without furries

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      Every online space is filled with furries, especially the most furry-hostile spaces!

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        That’s disgusting, I prefer furry-hostile tabs!

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          I love it when the hostility adapts to my system

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      We’re all shipping the penguin and the wildebeest.

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      :3

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      Is putting phone in ass a furry thing?

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        The depicted character has a snout and cat ears

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          And an anus!

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            and my axe

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          maybe she was just born that way

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            Why cat ears now, I can’t say
            Maybe she was just born that waaaaayyyyy

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        Thought it was more a prison thing.

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    Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations? Vibrators are cheap, you know.

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      Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations?

      Maybe that’s exactly what gets him off.

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        Frankly, this should be implemented with something like a combination of:

        https://github.com/QazCetelic/lemmy-know

        Lemmy Know (let me know) is a lightweight CLI application / Docker service that monitors Lemmy for reports on posts and comments and sends notification. These can be sent to a Discord channel with a webhook or as MQTT messages (schema), which is useful for more complex setups with e.g., Node-RED.

        https://www.home-assistant.io/

        Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts.

        https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/

        MQTT (aka MQ Telemetry Transport) is a machine-to-machine or “Internet of Things” connectivity protocol on top of TCP/IP. It allows extremely lightweight publish/subscribe messaging transport.

        https://github.com/DevelopmentalOctopus/ha-buttplug

        Buttplug.io Integration for Home Assistant

        https://intiface.com/central/

        Intiface® Central is an open-source, cross-platform application that acts as a hub for intimate haptics/sensor hardware access

        Some collection of hardware devices from:

        https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available%2CDIY&filter1Connection=Digital&filter2ButtplugSupport=4

        That’d permit for, say, having message events drive a state machine to control devices or something like that.

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          I’m not sure whether I’m more impressed or disturbed by the amount of thought you’ve given this

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          The unix shell pipeline keeps giving

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      It’s just not the same

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    Please tell me your phone has a flared base?

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    I still don’t get what you guys have against Windows. Bill Gates has done so much good for the world.

    (My body is ready.)

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      Bill Gates actually was pretty cool, it’s windows after Bill Gates that’s terrible. I can’t say there was anything Bill Gates did that I didn’t like, he was like the Gabe Newell of operating systems before steamdeck.

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        Put your phone on vibrate, etc…

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          I don’t think this statement is controversial and besides I own sex toys lol.

          Bill Gates was actually cool. The only bad thing he ever did as far as I’m aware, was lock direct X into windows. He even spends all of his time now in charity work and funding science. I think he was a great guy. This is why windows used to be the best operating system. He was smart and not overly greedy. He didn’t care for spyware or corporate espionage on citizens. Windows was a relatively open system. Not as open as Linux, but very open and good, and it had excellent tools and a really good user interface. Now windows is terrible, but this is after he left Microsoft.

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      I don’t mind all the ads, they’re always for things I was just thinking I needed to buy anyway.

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        Wow there, easy, you’re gonna end up on ER.

        At the very least take a smal phone.

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      Razzzzz

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