Everyday I ask myself how the democrats failed to have his ass in prison immediately. We all saw him committing sedition on tv! They also literally had a mountain of evidence he trafficked and raped children. How do the democrats always fail the simplest task to hold anyone accountable?
Because then they’d have to hold themselves accountable too. They’re just as crooked as the fascists, they’re just better at hiding it, and are being paid by people with different agendas.
I pray every day I see his obituary
Trump is a cartoon villain who should have nothing to do with serious matters. He should be gone. J.D. Vance scares me way more than Trump though, and he’d be the next mole to pop up after Orange Julius Caesar.
Vance cannot hold Trump’s political capital.
Trump is “untouchable” because he has a massive share of political capital, the currency of how things move in government. In his case, it’s a huge mob of feverishly loyal, armed patriots with the intellect of fenceposts. These are the kinds of power reserves that have built and destroyed countless nations, and it’s why Trump gets away with everything he does and why the GOP has hoisted him up as the figurehead to implement all their dumb fucking ideas and back-room earmarks to funnel money to the corporate donors.
This power bloc follows Trump because they are charmed by someone who is both authentic and contemptable “just like average folks” in their eyes. He is openly resentful of everyone, he hates what he does, he hates the people around him, he spits on his own base and they love it. To them, it feels refreshing, it feels like a “real person” to their limited scope and perception of the world, and he validates their absolute worst impulses, and you can never underestimate the loyalty and commitment of someone who has their deepest fears or passions granted to them.
Now Vance… the GOP and Peter Thiel have been parading this guy around, desperately hoping that he can pick up and continue the mission as soon as Trump keels over. But it’s not working. The base isn’t openly scornful of him, yet, but they’re truly not captivated by him, he talks like a politician, he talks too much, he smiles and laughs, he says all the right things at the right times. This is exactly the “Washington Deep State” vibe that they despise.
I’m not saying Vance won’t be dangerous or cause a lot of problems, but he will be RADICALLY neutered in what he can get away with. He will be barely above full-on “Lame Duck” status for his entire term. It will be another status-quo, right-wing slop presidency that maybe starts a small war somewhere to drum up attention and funding for some contractors, then gets voted out by some popular liberal Democrat.
History is a flat circle. I’ve seen a lot of this before.
- If trump dies, Vance doesnt need to be elected or Trump’s popularity
- The longer it takes for him to die, the more time he has to erode democratic structures that would prevent a technocrat like Vance from installing themselves permanently
Frankly I think we missed the window for the good version of him dying - especially if he dies abruptly in a way that could be spun into suspicion
Oh I agree, if Trump’s body suddenly realizes tomorrow that it should have stopped functioning years ago and he just spontaneously turns to dust in the oval office, there will be about a week-long, nationwide celebration, but it won’t make things better in the medium-term.
Vance isn’t going to command the same level of political power by far, but the shit that’s already been started (or ended, like USAID) will continue to wreck our society for years or decades, even if everything goes right, even if we had our glorious leftist revolution like kids around here seem to like to think will happen any day now, the damage is active and will continue to cause damage for years and years. The world and American policy are like slow moving boats, and even minor adjustments can take decades to have an impact.
Im not really talking about things like USAID, I’m talking about his consolidation of power broadly and the normalization of the abuse of presidential power
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and right wing lunatics.
“Shit fruit falls close to the shit tree”
Sir James Lahey.
I wonder what Marcus Aurelius would do with this tyrannical pissant. I mean come on, he also must’ve had a limit to stoicism.
Considering he let Commodus succeed him, presumably not much.
When is the majority of this country going to grasp that we are dealing with an actual, real life traitor?
Is it going to be one of those things where it isn’t generally recognized until way after the fact when historians/teachers/students are studying the time period?
It’s pretty fucking obvious.
He INCITECD AN INSURRECTION. He is ADVOCATING FOR HANGING POLITICIANS FOR ADHERING TO THE CONSTITUTION.
Maybe when he sets off a nuke in Chicago … but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
You mean Chiraq? Hell it’s such a lawless hellhole up there they should glass it just to get rid of the libtards. That’s what Sean Hannity told me anyway.
I fear that if things somehow miraculously go back to normal in the Untied States, absolutely nothing will have been learned, these chucklefucks won’t be prosecuted, no laws will change to prevent a fascist regime, and millions of Americans will carry on oblivious that anything out of the ordinary happened
The only people who would get mad about telling the troops to refuse illegal orders, are the people who plan to issue illegal orders.
drump is going to get what mussolini got if we keep heading in this direction
He’s already deserved it for a long time now.
I wish I was that optimistic but who the fuck is going to make it happen?
Not you with that attitude, that’s for sure
I don’t think the attitude that Trump and his cronies will inevitably face their just deserts helps either. Someone has to make it happen or it isn’t going to.
The tired, hungry, and poor?
Lotta guns in the US. What percentage of people need to be pushed toward the edge until one with the correct means and circumstances snaps?
Just more sensationalism to keep everyone’s mind off the Epstein files if you ask me.
A lot of political experts are predicting that this latest Epstein drama may actually have consequence.
Not the way we wish, we will never see Trump impeached, much less arrested, but it’s very possible that we don’t see real policy movement from Trump for the rest of his term. He is not going to be able to secure votes as his loyalists start to scatter into their own little power groups, each avoiding the burning, sinking ship that is the fallout of the Epstein falls.
It’s not the justice we fantasize seeing, but it’s a real good thing for the future of our country if it goes down like this.
The fuck is wrong with Americans?
If any other president had said the things he said over the past couple of months, the country would have exploded and a president either legally or through mass protest removed from office.
What’s so special about this orange nutjob?
We are bathed in a Douglas Adams SEP field.
No one will do anything if is or might be Someone Else’s Problem.
it’s a bad combination of lazy, cowardly
Nothing is special about Trump. The American people are special. I know cause I’m one of them. Fuck this place. I love my country but fuck this place and all the narcissistic scumbags that live here.
There have been tons of massive protests, the average American doesn’t support this crap and they’re doing what they can
The question should be the fuck is wrong with America’s police officers, service members, judges, and lawmakers and other elected officials
He doesn’t care about your protests. He literally created a video of himself shitting on them and declaring himself king. It works in functioning democracies, but walking down the street with a sign will not stop a fascist intent on absolute power.
I wish I could fucking tell you. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
It’s been the downfall of empires before, and America isnt anything special. Just unchecked and unchallenged humans greed and corruption taking its next logical steps.
“through mass protest removed from office.”
I laughed aloud at this. You should do a bit more research on how the US works.
What’s so special about this orange nutjob?
Nothing, really. He’s not doing anything other piece of trash authoritarians haven’t done before. And he’s not doing it as effectively as many of them did.
What’s special is that we live in a country whose populace is so ignorant and hateful that a high enough percentage of the population supports this basic ass removed because he says basic ass hateful shit that he has remained protected by them.
The issue isn’t Trump. Our society could have easily kept him just a whiny little rich removed like all the other whiny little rich removed. The issue is our society because we didn’t.
Believe me. There is nothing special about this loser.
There is nothing special about him. Assholes like him are a dime a dozen.
The real issue is generations of brainwashing and propaganda. On a micro scale we are individuals with free will and personal responsibility. But on a macro scale, when we are looking at the population as a whole, it’s so compleatly beyond people just being bad. They are like this because they have been conditioned to be like this. Taught to be like this. Turned into this.
I’m not saying that people are not responsible for their choices and actions. I am saying that the problem is so widespread that the we need to address the cause and not get stuck at just being mad at and blaming the individual.
American society now is the result of a fuck ton of social engineering by the wealthy elite trying to extract as much work and money out of the world as possible. We are living in the capitalist dream right now.
A country full of stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynists elect a stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynist… How could this have happened?
Misogynists? People need to be reminded that non-black women voted in large numbers for Trump.
Women can be misogynists. Many women suffer from internalized misogyny.
He has done it so much and gotten away with it, it’s been normalized.
January 6th (aka, the insurrection) should have been a wake up call for everyone. A lot of people don’t care about their country or God or whatever else they claim. Many just care about community.
People arent hungry, yet.
Oh, they are. But you underestimate the power of opioids, police state, etc. in preventing that hunger from turning into action.
Nothing is a special about the Cheeto Man. He is not a means to some end, as though his specialty is bringing about some change which nobody else could have. Cheeto Man is an end in himself. He’s the result of where we have been headed for a long time. Circumstances were right for a man like Cheeto Man, and now here he is. It’s like when the weather man tells you circumstances are just right for rain — that means it’s probably going to rain.
the jiu-jitsu propaganda machine is coming for everyone. Watch for the signs: nutjobbery, incompetence, fascism.
I think part of the problem is people assume he’s going to die soon and so aren’t motivated to try and remove him from office. But even if he dies soon, I fear things will get worse. JD Vance is potentially just as bad or worse. And other people involved, like Stephen Miller, could eventually become president if nothing is done to prosecute all the people involved in this clownshow
Americans in flyover country are really really fucking stupid, yet are very well funded gov subsidies. Evil exploits this major US weakness.
My personal theory is that there is just so many people and so much land that one person can care about and that area is about the size and population of the average US state or European country. Once you get to the size of the US or China or Russia or even India it’s too big for people to care. Very few people in NYC give a shit about what is happening in LA on a day to day basis.
I don’t know if it’s a lack of caring, but the distance certainly makes MEANINGFUL action for most Americans out of reach. Just marching in say Boulder, CO does jack shit in Washington, D.C.
They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful?
Nah.
Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump’s orders are lawful, because he’s the president and a president can do anything.
So their issue would be that saying that isn’t true, is unlawful.
Which is obviously hypocritical because they acted like Biden and Obama were Stalin and Mao level authoritarians and multiple sherrifs and other red state officials flat out refused to follow orders from the Fed.
By their logic now, all those people shouldve been hung.
But when Trump’s out of office they’ll change their tune again
If it weren’t for double standards, the Republicans would have none whatsoever
Our standards are the best, folks. They’re so good, they call them, you know what they call them? I know you know, the lying media knows, but folks they call them “double standards”. Can you believe it? Standards so good they’re double. And listen, when we put America First, our standards will triple, even quadruple.
God damnit, I could hear that comment.
this was just missing a “clean-beautiful-double standards”
But the reason shit is so fucked, is the neoliberal wing took over the Dem party and their only problem with a strong fed is they didn’t control it.
Instead of fighting against the centralization of power, they went along with it because 50% of the time they got the keys.
And the oligarchs that funded both sides were cool with it for the same reason the US was cool with installing puppet dictators in the ME.
You want centralized power in a puppet state because the more you concentrate the bribe the more the person will do for it.
It’s not impossible to buy off ~550 politicians to own the federal government, but it’s easier to just buy off the president.
Just like it’s easier to buy off a single federal government, than 52 state/territories.
Which is kind of the whole reason we as citizens should want the power distributed as much as possible, which includes unfreezing the number of House seats and putting more power in state governments.
And resizing SCOTUS
Shifting power toward the Presidency has been going on far longer than there were neoliberals. It goes back to the early days of the country.
You are hyper-fixated on one particular boogeyman. Heretics and apostates have always been more hated than infidels.
Shifting power toward the Presidency has been going on far longer than there were neoliberals. It goes back to the early days of the country.
Not really…
There was a short bump after the civil war.
But after that it’s all been relatively recent.
Even the stuff FDR was doing was mostly about funding states and projects that helped them.
The consolidation of power in the fed has been about 50 years which is recent on a country’s timeline.
Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump’s orders are lawful, because he’s the president and a president can do anything.
To be fair, the supreme court recently said exactly that. We literally have a king now.
They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful.
FIFU
They’re markedly leaving that word out when they discuss this.
Trump: “Hang them for sedition!”
Commentator: “That is of course nonsense. The President doesn’t have the authority to …”
Supreme court: “As the President is a sovereign, he has absolute authority to issue death sentences for any reason” (6-3 majority)
That ruling would also be blatant permission to commit genocide
Yeah, Genocide is their end-goal. They’ve already been setting up the camps.
There might already be executions happening at the camps. People have gone missing from them with no explanation. I wanna see people demand answers with the same energy they demand the epstein files
Wasn’t there just a story yesterday, where they keep finding hanging “suicides” that were hogtied? Trying to find it again, thought that was in the camps
Yeap and there go. Buy ammo ladies and gentlemen.
if they had balls every dem politicians who could run for next election should say that they will pardon anyone who gets arrested or in trouble for disobeying illegal orders.
Set aside Dems for a moment. When will the media give any of these scandals any deserving attention? Bush, Obama, Biden got raked by the media for weeks for the slightest misspeak
They obviously won’t… All the American media outlets are being consolidated under right wing ownership. To the extent we ever had fair reporting, that’s over.
Yeah they do that because the people who own the media know two things:
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The Dems will get criticised by both people left of them and people right of them, so raking them over the coals generates a lot of outrage which equals to clicks and views.
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They can use this public perception pressure to ensure they keep passing policies that are, if not aligned with, don’t affect the super rich owners and donators. Because the media owners can always dial up the jingoism and get the republicans elected again at the subsequent end of second term election.
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They are all complicit, however I cannot comment on that, because I have not watched tv or followed main stream media in a decade. I have ground news, which is great (I do have some complaints about it, it isn’t perfect but no point venting here). So I personally cannot complain about them too much.
Obama got slammed for wearing a tan suit
Trump got slammed for looking at Bubba the Right Way®
Well, you see, we’re chasing the clicks and stale news doesn’t get the clicks. And Trump constantly makes fresh news to chase those clicks with. Gotta get those clicks! WE NEED THOSE CLICKS!
Quiet, piggy.
